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   Re: Ko$her for Killers in Florida Prison   
   11 Dec 03 07:45:28   
   
   XPost: alt.revisionism, soc.culture.jewish, alt.conspiracy   
   XPost: alt.law-enforcement   
   From: roger@   
      
   In one age, called the Second Age by some,   
      (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)   
         someone claiming to be Seneca wrote   
            in message :   
      
   >"Philip Mathews"  wrote in message   
   >news:2iOBb.80789$_M.403459@attbi_s54...   
      
   >> "Seneca"  wrote in message   
   >> news:9lNBb.35673$4H2.30013@newssvr32.news.prodigy.com...   
      
     [snip]   
      
   >> > > >Do Jewish researchers and scholars who question much of the Holocaust   
   >> > > >mythology also have "Jew hatred" in your opinion?   
   >> > >   
   >> > > Your question is too vague:  to which *specific* questions about the   
   >> > > historical facts (it's not myth, no matter how many times you post   
   >> > > that lie) of the Holocaust are you referring, and by whom?   
      
   >> > Gas chambers, for starters.   
      
   >> What Jewish scholars and researchers question the fact of gas chambers?   
      
   >David Cole? Dennis Cole? Not sure of the name; IIRC he's a Jewish researcher   
   >who "believes in the Holocaust" but not in the gas chambers. Of course I   
   >understand that to you that's an impossibility, since anyone not swallowing   
   >the gas chambers story line must be a "Holocaust denier."   
      
   Of course, that David Cole describes *himself* as a having been a   
   denier, in the same statement that he acknowledges, "I would like to   
   state for the record that there is no question in my mind that during   
   the Holocaust of Europe's Jews during World War II, the Nazis employed   
   gas chambers in an attempt to commit genocide against the Jews"   
   doesn't seem to have registered on seneca's radar...   
      
   >> > I really think it all begins and ends with gas chambers. That seems to   
   >> > be   
   >> > the cornerstone of the whole Holocaust mythology. That's the part that   
   >> > must   
   >> > be defended at all costs, lest the whole patchwork pile of bullshit come   
   >> > tumbling down.   
      
   >> Rubbish.   
   >>   
   >> You have it exactly backwards. Gas chambers are the component of the   
   >> Holocaust which deniers must attack at all costs.   
      
   >That's like saying "flatness of the earth is the component of cosmology that   
   >deniers must attack at all costs."   
      
   Only in that they both use a similar sentence structure.   
      
   >The difference, of course, is that the   
   >Flat Earth concept never served any political, geopolitical, commercial or   
   >economic purpose, was never the focus of huge propaganda efforts over half a   
   >century, and can readily be disproven.   
      
   And so could the gas chambers, if it weren't for all those pesky   
   contemporary documents, the statements of the Nazis themselves about   
   this and so forth.   
      
   Too bad for seneca these all exist in support of the *facts* of the   
   gas chambers.   
      
   >Disproving gas chambers amounts to proving a negative, which is impossible.   
      
   No, it amounts to having to deny or distort a mountain of evidence   
   which contains not a single contradictory item to refute the use to   
   which the gas chambers were put.   
      
   Which is why the deniers fail so miserably trying to deny that use.   
      
   >> The construction and use   
   >> of such facilities make it very difficult for deniers to deny   
   >> intentionality, one of the other components of the Holocaust.   
      
   >Indeed that would be so, if there had ever been any.   
      
   And yet seneca objects to being named a denier...   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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