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   . to specific issue   
   Re: Ko$he [sic]r for Killers in Florida    
   11 Dec 03 17:19:27   
   
   XPost: alt.revisionism, alt.conspiracy, alt.law-enforcement   
   From: roger@   
      
   In one age, called the Second Age by some,   
      (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)   
         someone claiming to be Seneca wrote   
            in message   
   :   
      
   >"Roger"  wrote in message   
   >news:8998735d227e9ccefed48642e0fb8e87@news.teranews.com...   
      
     [ . . . ]   
      
   >> >> >> >> People who are vegetarians or lactose-intolerant purchase a   
   >> >> >> >> significant amount of kosher pareve products because of the   
   >> >> >> >> assurance   
   >> >> >> >> that this designation means that neither meat nor dairy products   
   >> >> >> >> are used to make the product.   
      
   >> >> >> >Nonsense. A friend of mine is a *Jew* who is lactose-intolerant,   
   >> >> >> >and he doesn't bother with kosher foods.   
      
   >> >> >> Which of course, means that *no* lactose intolerant person does...   
      
   >> >> >I should think that lactose-intolerant people would seek foods   
   >> >> >intended   
   >> >> >for those with that problem, such as those containing Lactaid or   
   >> >> >whatever.   
      
   >> >> And *not* foods which certifiably contain no dairy, but are not   
   >> >> specifically for the lactose intolerant?  Why not?   
      
   >> >What sort of foods "contain no dairy" in the kosher form but do in the   
   >> >non-kosher?   
      
   >> Anything that contains meat or its byproducts.   
      
   >I don't know of any such canned foods that would contain dairy products   
   >anyway.   
      
   Once again:  your ignorance is relevant...how?   
      
   >> >I notice that my Maxwell House coffee is kosher taxed, and so is my Coors   
   >> >beer. I doubt there are any dairy products in a can of either coffee or   
   >> >beer, whether kosher or not.   
      
   >> Why is it that you continue to refer to certification as a tax?  WHich   
   >> governmental agency (which are the only entities capable of levying a   
   >> tax) do you claim are administering Kosher certification?   
      
   >"Kosher tax" is what it is most commonly called.   
      
   ... by anti-semites such as seneca.   
      
   >Do a Google on "kosher tax"   
   >and there are about 50,700 results, so it is hardly something I invented   
   >myself.   
      
   Nor have I claimed that you did.  You have been corrected on the   
   matter, however, and so the question remains:  Given that you know   
   it's not, why is it that you continue to refer to certification as a   
   tax?  Which governmental agency (which are the only entities capable   
   of levying a tax) do you claim are administering Kosher certification?   
      
   >> And these products are also not of concern to lactose intolerant   
   >> people, so I fail to see what your point is, other than to tell the   
   >> tax lie again.   
      
   >> >What exactly is being certified here? Do you believe Maxwell House hires   
   >> >rabbis to go down to Brazil or Colombia and check the picking of every   
   >> >coffee bean, making sure it is never placed in a non-kosher container or   
   >> >otherwise infested by "noxious spirits"?   
      
   >> seneca's admitted ignorance does not stop zie from sneering at what he   
   >> doesn't understand...   
      
     [ . . . ]   
      
   >Well, do they send rabbis to Brazil and Colombia, or don't they? Since you   
   >claim I am ignorant and imply that you hav vastly superior knowledge of all   
   >this, why can't you answer the question?   
      
   Because it matters very little to me, and I fail to see why this   
   specific issue says anything interesting or useful about the larger   
   topic.   
      
   >And again, what's with this "zie" and "zir" business? Can you answer at   
   >least one of these questions?   
      
   Okay, so your ignorance extends to Usenet and how it works as well.   
   Your posts and my responses are not immediate.  Therefore the post to   
   which you responded here was sent *before* I saw your posts where you   
   made it clear that you had forgotten that I use gender neutral   
   pronouns in my posts, and have been since well before you came on the   
   scene with your mindless denial.   
      
   You concede the "ritual slaughter ban" point, then?   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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