XPost: alt.revisionism, soc.culture.jewish, alt.conspiracy   
   XPost: alt.law-enforcement   
   From: philipmathews@comcast.net   
      
   "Seneca"  wrote in message   
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   > "Philip Mathews"  wrote in message   
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   > > "Seneca"  wrote in message   
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   > > > "Philip Mathews"  wrote in message   
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   > > > > "Seneca"  wrote in message   
   > > > > news:MaHBb.4686$ir6.43@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com...   
   > > > [ . . . ]   
   > > > > > > > > Do they simply   
   > > > > > > > > like giving money to "rabbinical organizations"?  Or do they   
   > get   
   > > > > > something   
   > > > > > > > > in return?   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > Good questions. I would like to know too.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > And would you like to know why businesses give money to   
   > consultants,   
   > > > > > > design firms, accountants, etc.,   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > Oh. Rabbis serve these businesses in ways similar to those of   
   > > > consultants,   
   > > > > > design firms, accountants, etc.?   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Obviously. They are hired to perform a service for which they earn a   
   > > fee.   
   > >   
   > > > This "service" appears to be one for which the need, not even   
   perceived   
   > > half   
   > > > a century ago, is now increasing at an exponential rate:   
   > >   
   > > So what?   
   > >   
   > > And it is clearly a service, not a "service".   
   > >   
   > > Unless you'd like to actually make an argument otherwise.   
      
   "Seneca" declines to tell us why it is not clearly a service.   
      
   So we can see he was engaged in propaganda.   
      
   > > [snip]   
   > >   
   > > > > Exactly the same.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > So we can expect that you will turn your skepticism toward these   
   other   
   > > > kinds   
   > > > > of service arrangements, correct? Or is it only Jewish services you   
   > care   
   > > > > about?   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > > or is your curiosity only with things   
   > > > > > > which involves Jews?   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > I have curiosity about many things, Philthy.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Well, then let's hear it about other service firms, "Seneca".   
   > >   
   > > > What newsgroup is this, Philthy?   
   > >   
   > > Not alt.Kosher certification.   
   > >   
   > > What would you say that indicates?   
      
   "Seneca" declines to tell us why it's on topic to discuss Jewish service   
   firms in alt.revisionism, but not other service firms.   
      
   > > [snip]   
   > >   
   > > > > > > > Another good question is, How can things like witch hazel,   
   > kitchen   
   > > > > > cleansers   
   > > > > > > > and dishwashing liquids be kosher? My dictionary says kosher   
   > means   
   > > > > > > > "conforming to dietary laws; ritually pure." That has always   
   > been   
   > > my   
   > > > > > > > understanding as well. Can you explain to me how these   
   > non-dietary   
   > > > > > things   
   > > > > > > > (and presumably many others) can be kosher?   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > They come into contact with items which are in contact with   
   food.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > Witch hazel does? I don't think so.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Witch hazel can be consumed.   
   > >   
   > > > So can Joy and Ajax, I suppose.   
      
   > > No. But what is your point? Do you attach some special significance to   
   the   
   > > fact that you are too ignorant of Kosher certification to figure out why   
   a   
   > > manufacturer would seek it?   
      
   "Seneca" declines to tell us why any importance should be attached to his   
   ignorance.   
      
      
   > > > > > > > What this *appears* to be is a device for squeezing money out   
   of   
   > > > > > > > manufacturers for Jewish interests and causes, completely   
   > > unrelated   
   > > > to   
   > > > > > the   
   > > > > > > > product.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Really! Now isn't that theory a surprise, coming from "Seneca"!   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > > All these gullible business people are unknowingly squeezed by   
   > these   
   > > > > > > Jews, and it takes someone like "Seneca" to figure it out.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > Who said "unknowingly"?   
   > >   
   > > > > Ah, they allow themselves to be squeezed!   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Let's see, thousands of companies produce 90,000 Kosher products in   
   > > almost   
   > > > > 10,000 plants across the country because they are knowinly squeezed.   
   > > Sure   
   > > > > "Seneca".   
   > >   
   > > > Why, does this amaze you?   
   > >   
   > > It would amaze any sane person.   
   > >   
   > > > Jesse Jackson does this sort of thing all the time,   
   > >   
   > > No he doesn't. There is nothing about Kosher certification that has any   
   > > relationship to what Jesse Jackson does.   
      
   "Seneca" declines to support his claim that Kosher certification is like   
   some actions by Jesse Jackson "Seneca" persumably doesn't like.   
      
   > > > > >I presume the people making those decisions are   
   > > > > > doing so consciously. What the reasons are, exactly, is what I'm   
   > > curious   
   > > > > > about.   
   > >   
   > > > > Well, if you don't know what the reasons are, then your claim that   
   > they   
   > > > are   
   > > > > squeezed can be attributed to your desire to malign Jews.   
   > >   
   > > > In fact, you could even "attribute to [my] desire to malign Jews" my   
   > > > noticing that today is Wednesday.   
   > >   
   > > No, because Wednesday as a day has nothing to do with Jews, but Kosher   
   > > certification does.   
   > >   
   > > Is this an example of your exalted abilities at logic?   
   > >   
   > > [snip]   
   > >   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > > >Why manufacturers would go along with this is still the most   
   > > > > > > > interesting question.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > > Most intelligent people would consider that question so obvious   
   as   
   > > to   
   > > > > > > be of little interest. But to a Jew hater, anything Jewish is   
   > > > > > > interesting.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > By the same principle, I suppose, anyone who hates broccoli must   
   be   
   > > > > > interested in all things related to broccoli. Your logical   
   processes   
   > > are   
   > > > > > wonderful to behold, Philthy.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Mine?   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Look at the assault on logic you just engaged in. Tell us how   
   broccoli   
   > > is   
   > > > > like Jews, eh "Seneca"?   
   > >   
   > > > [ . . . ]   
   > >   
   > > > Review your principle, Philthy: "But to a [X] hater, anything [X] is   
   > > > interesting." It's your principle, not mine. Don't ask me to explain   
   it;   
   > I   
   > > > doubt there is a logical explanation.   
   > >   
   > > I'm asking you to explain how broccoli is like Jews, "Seneca".   
   > >   
   > > It seems you are unable to.   
      
   > It's the principle that's relevant here, Philthy, the logical   
   relationship,   
   > the analogue. Not whether broccoli is like Jews.   
      
   No analgue was offered, simply a statement of fact, that Jew haters are   
   fixated with Jews.   
      
   Your attempt to make it a syllogism is quite pathetic.   
      
   --   
   Philip Mathews   
      
   "Mankind have a great aversion to intellectual labor; but even supposing   
   knowledge to be easily attainable, more people would be content to be   
   ignorant than would take even a little trouble to acquire it."   
      
   Samuel Johnson   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)