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   The Lone Weasel to Eric Johnson   
   Re: Costly assaults with the deadly weap   
   13 Dec 03 14:50:23   
   
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   From: theloneweasel@yahoo.com   
      
   Eric Johnson  wrote in   
   news:BC00A16F.3B015%erj66@xs4all.nl:   
      
   > On 13-12-2003 01:13, in article   
   > 3fda579e.7570395@news.melbpc.org.au, "Thom"   
   >  wrote:   
   >   
   >> No they're not.  I don't own a car, I take public   
   >> transport, walk or ride my mountain bike.  Cars are not   
   >> necessary at all plus you have no constitutional right to   
   >> a car, I do for a gun however.   
   >   
   > Actually one does have a constitutional right to have a   
   > car. The privilege part comes in only if you wish to drive   
   > it on public streets.   
      
   Where do you find a constitutional right to have a car in the   
   U.S. Constitution?   
      
   _______________   
      
      
   The clause in the constitution of the United States, that it   
   is said to be in violation of, is the 2d article of the   
   amendments: "A well regulated militia being necessary to the   
   security of a free state, the right of the people to keep   
   and bear arms shall not be infringed."  O. & W. Dig. 7.  The   
   clause in the constitution of this state, which it is said   
   to violate, is the 13th section of the bill of rights:   
   "Every citizen shall have the right to keep and bear arms,   
   in the lawful defense of himself or the state." O. & W. Dig.   
   14.   
      
   The object of the clause first cited, has reference to the   
   perpetuation of free government, and is based on the idea,   
   that the people cannot be effectually oppressed and   
   enslaved, who are not first disarmed. The clause cited in   
   our bill of rights, has the same broad object in relation to   
   the government, and in addition thereto, secures a personal   
   right to the citizen.  The right of a citizen to bear arms,   
   in the lawful defense of himself or the state, is absolute.   
   He does not derive it from the state government, but   
   directly from the sovereign convention of the people that   
   framed the state government.   
      
   The clause cited in our bill of rights, has the same broad   
   object in relation to the government, and in addition   
   thereto, secures a personal right to the citizen.   
      
   The right of a citizen to bear arms, in the lawful defense   
   of himself or the state, is absolute. He does not derive it   
   from the state government, but directly from the sovereign   
   convention of the people that framed the state government.   
   It is one of the "high powers" delegated directly to the   
   citizen, and "is excepted out of the general powers of   
   government."  A law cannot be passed to infringe upon or   
   impair it, because it is above the law, and independent of   
   the law-making power.   
      
   Cockrum v. State, 24 Texas 394 (1859)   
      
      
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