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   Message 3,072 of 3,649   
   The Lone Weasel to Eric Johnson   
   Re: Costly assaults with the deadly weap   
   13 Dec 03 22:49:45   
   
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   From: theloneweasel@yahoo.com   
      
   Eric Johnson  wrote in   
   news:BC01198E.3B085%erj66@xs4all.nl:   
   > On 13-12-2003 18:37, in article   
   > Xns94507654F9790theloneweaselyahooco@130.133.1.4, "The Lone   
   > Weasel"  wrote:   
      
   >> Try the Fourteenth Amendment, where you also lose but it's   
   >> more interesting.   
   >   
   > Given that the 14th extends all the other provisions and   
   > rights provided by the constitution to charges at the state   
   > level, I don't see how it would do anything but support my   
   > argument based on the 5th amendment.   
      
   Look up "substantive due process".   
      
   You still won't have an argument.   
      
   ______________   
      
      
   PROPER SHOWING OF NEED   
      
   In considering each individual application for a pistol   
   permit the Attorney General must determine whether or not   
   the applicant has demonstrated a proper showing of need to   
   carry a loaded firearm in public, and consider the   
   individual's demonstration of skill and responsibility to   
   safely carry and use a firearm in compliance with all State,   
   Federal and local laws. Because a loaded, concealed firearm   
   in untrained hands presents danger to the public and the   
   applicant, the Attorney General must consider countervailing   
   risks to the public in assessing need.   
      
   While there cannot be any set formula or criteria to limit   
   or restrict the Attorney General's discretion to issue or   
   deny a pistol permit, the Attorney General considers the   
   following factors in assessing an applicant's proper showing   
   of need.   
      
   1. Has the applicant demonstrated a specific articulable   
   risk to life, limb or property? If so, has the applicant   
   demonstrated how a pistol permit will decrease the risk?   
      
   2. Can the applicant readily alter his or her conduct, or   
   undertake reasonable measures other than carrying a loaded   
   firearm, to decrease the danger to life, limb or property?   
      
   3. Are there means of protection available to the applicant   
   other than the possession of a loaded fireaun that will   
   alleviate the risk to his or her person or property?   
      
   4. Has the applicant demonstrated the skill, training and   
   ability to properly use a firearm in accordance with Rhode   
   Island laws?   
      
   5. Has the applicant presented a plan to properly secure the   
   firearm so that it does not fall into unauthorized hands?   
      
   6. How greatly will the possession of a loaded firearm by   
   the applicant increase the risk of harm to the applicant or   
   to the public?   
      
   7. Has the applicant demonstrated that he or she will not   
   use the firearm for an unlawful or improper purpose, and   
   that he or she has not used a fireai in for an unlawful or   
   improper purpose in the past?   
      
   8. Does past unlawful, dangerous or violent conduct of the   
   applicant justify denial at the Attorney General's   
   discretion even if it is not sufficient to disqualify the   
   applicant as a matter of law from possessing a firearm?   
      
   9. Has the applicant been issued a protective order pursuant   
   to chapter 15-5, chapter 15-15, or chapter 8- 8.1 of the   
   general laws?   
      
   10. Any and all other factors deemed lawful and appropriate   
   by the Attorney General to demonstrate that the applicant is   
   or is not a person suitable to possess a loaded firearm in   
   public.   
      
      
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