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   From: MMDEG@milwaukee.com   
      
   Very interesting post. I agree wholeheartedly!   
      
      
   "Grendel"  wrote in message   
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   > "_ G O D _"  wrote in message   
   news:...   
   > > But you have also missed most of the facts which are also oppose its   
   > > existence and perpetuation. Such as:   
   > >   
   > > 1. Incarceration is conflicting with essential and inalienable human   
   rights   
   > > to have a fair trial,   
   >   
   > One has an inalienable human right to a fair trial?  One may be   
   > promised this in the eyes of the law, this bears no resemblance to   
   > real life outside of the justice system. Here's a nice experiment:  At   
   > the next big meeting of NAACP, walk right in and shoot either Jesse   
   > Jackson, or Mr. Sharpton or some other African-American of some   
   > standing(or if you prefer, make it David Duke at a KKK rally).  Make   
   > sure you do this in full sight of all the attendees.  When the crowd   
   > is advancing on you with revenge on it's mind be sure to tell them   
   > that it is your inalienable human right to a fair trial.  While you   
   > wait for that why don't you tell us that we have an inalienable human   
   > right for life to be fair.  Guess what, IT AIN'T!   
   >   
   > > to be alive,   
   >   
   > One has an inalienable human right to try and survive.  It doesn't   
   > automatically follow that one has an inalienable human right to be   
   > alive.   
   >   
   > > to enjoy liberty,   
   >   
   > What if one doesn't enjoy liberty, but abhores it instead?  Many   
   > people have never experienced liberty.  Thus it does not follow that   
   > it is an inalienable human right.  It has to be earned and then   
   > protected.   
   >   
   > > to have a fair pay for one's labor,   
   >   
   > Ah, but one has to actually labor to recieve this.  One is responsible   
   > for finding a skill/occupation that others are willing to pay for.  If   
   > you are unwilling to do this then you don't have an inalienable human   
   > right to a living wage for performing work that a trained monkey can   
   > also accomplish.   
   >   
   > > as well to have dignity in his own activity or work.   
   >   
   > Dignity is an inalienable human right?  Bullshit.  Dignity is   
   > something you obtain through hard work and earning the respect of your   
   > peers.  Someone who shows late up to work reeking of alcohol and   
   > unwashed expecting "dignity" is in for a good dose or reality.   
   >   
   > >   
   > > 2. Incarceration industry is very damaging to individuals' inalienable   
   > > rights   
   >   
   > You stated this in your first point.  You were proven wrong.   
   >   
   > These are the only inalienable human rights you have.   
   > To be born(though this is questionable. It's actually pure chance).   
   > To try and survive and/or prosper.   
   > To defend yourself.   
   > To be held accountable for your actions.   
   > To die.   
   >   
   > You do not have the right to a new car, big screen TV or any other   
   > form of wealth. More power to you if you can legally acquire them, but   
   > no one is guaranteeing anything.   
   >   
   > You do not have the right to never be offended.   
   >   
   > You do not have the right to be free from harm. If you stick a   
   > screwdriver in your eye, learn to be more careful, do not expect the   
   > tool manufacturer to make you and all your relatives independently   
   > wealthy.   
   >   
   > You do not have the right to free food and housing.   
   >   
   > You do not have the right to free health care.   
   >   
   > You do not have the right to physically harm other people.   
   >   
   > You do not have the right to the possessions of others.   
   >   
   > You don't have the right to a job.   
   >   
   > You do not have the right to happiness. This must be found on your   
   > own.   
   >   
   > Prisons serve a purpose.  They separate those that would do harm to   
   > innocents from said innocents.  This result has also been attempted   
   > through penal colonies (see: Australia), work farms and (my favorite)   
   > hangin/firing squads/torture dungeons.   
   >   
   > It's actually real simple.  You don't like Prisons?  Then try to live   
   > your life in such a way as you'll never be subjected to one (dang, I   
   > think that's the entire idea right there). In the mean time, shut up   
   > about what you 'think' are your "inalienable human rights".   
   >   
   > Yol Bolsum,   
   > Grendel.   
   >   
   > "Jesus only told us half of it.  The Truth WILL set you free, but it's   
   > gonna piss you off first."-Soloman Short.   
      
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