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   From: roger@   
      
   In one age, called the Second Age by some,   
      (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)   
         someone claiming to be Seneca wrote   
            in message :   
      
   >"Roger"  wrote in message   
   >news:b3d1ed117a1e281611c1e6e742835d23@news.teranews.com...   
      
   >> In one age, called the Second Age by some,   
   >>    (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)   
   >>       someone claiming to be Seneca wrote   
   >>          in message   
   >> :   
      
   >> >"Roger"  wrote in message   
   >> >news:2bd9677fa1314cab29428ec9379fd928@news.teranews.com...   
      
     [ . . . ]   
      
   >> >>      
      
   >> >> Or would you like to try to make the case that any of those links   
   >> >> which do not simply quote the term are *not* of an anti-semitic   
   >> >> nature?  Any of them at all?   
      
   >> >There are 50,700 of 'em, Roger. Go ahead and check 'em all yourself and   
   >> >tell me what you think.   
      
   >> Find *one* that uses it, not as a quote, which is *not* demonstrably   
   >> anti-semetic.   
   >>   
   >> Just *one*.   
      
   >How about some Jewish sites?   
      
   How about what I asked:  Find *one* of these 50K sites that uses the   
   term "Kosher tax (not as a quote) which is *not* demonstrably   
   anti-semetic.   
      
   Just *one*.   
      
   >> >One thing is certain: the term is commonly used and those who use it (or,   
   >> >like yourself, read it) understand perfectly well what it means.   
      
   >> Yes, it means anti-semites will use any smear against those they hate,   
   >> regardless of any notion of the truth, and by and large are fairly   
   >> unimaginative, preferring instead to parrot what others have said as   
   >> long as it justifies their hatred.   
      
   >So where's the "hate" part?   
      
   The attempted use of distorted term in order to imply coercion in a   
   simple business transaction the likes of which take place hundreds of   
   times in a given product cycle -- but only when da Jooos are involved.   
   It is this singling out of a specific group (most of which don't even   
   have anything to do with the service offered and paid for to begin   
   with) that exposes a pre-occupation with the group so isolated.   
      
   Further examination of other statements made by (or rather, lies and   
   distortions parroted by for the most part) such people indicates that   
   such preoccupation is do to an irrational hatred of that target group.   
      
   >> >> >All the "irrational hatred" seems to be coming from your side of the   
   >> >> >debate.   
   >> >> >Anyone who disputes or even questions something presented as   
   >> >> >historical   
   >> >> >fact, but for which there is no physical evidence and no logical   
   >> >> >reason, you call an "anti-Semite."   
      
   >> >> Lie, given the mountains of evidence for the historical fact of the   
   >> >> Holocaust.   
      
   >> >What has that to do with me?   
      
   >> "Anyone who disputes or even questions something presented as   
   >> historical fact, but for which there is no physical evidence and no   
   >> logical reason, you call an 'anti-Semite.'"   
   >>   
   >> To what historical fact do you refer as having no evidence or reason,   
   >> if not the Holocaust?   
      
   >Are you claiming I don't believe in the so-called Holocaust?   
      
   Answer my question:  To what historical fact do you refer as having no   
   evidence or reason, if not the Holocaust?   
      
   >> >>>> And why must you lie to justify your hatred?   
      
   >> >Why must you always characterize any viewpoint that differs from your own   
   >> >as "hatred"?   
      
   >> I demonstrably don't.   
      
   >You do, over and over. You seem to believe that calling an accurate   
   >observation "hatred" will in some magical way nullify it. It doesn't.   
      
   And yet you cannot document a *single* such "accurate statement"   
   which I have characterized as hatred.   
      
   >> >I don't hate anyone connected with this issue, individually or   
   >> >collectively.   
      
   >> Demonstrably false.   
      
   >Point out the "hate" part, then. Any "hate" part at all.   
      
   Gord has already done so.   
      
   >> >I merely comment on, and criticize where necessary, those   
   >> >things that require commentary or criticism.   
      
   >> "... with no concern as to whether my commentary or criticism is based   
   >> on anything but my hatred, as my continual referral to a normal   
   >> business transaction involving a service contracted for by the buyer   
   >> and offered by the seller as a "tax," and attempts to differentiate it   
   >> from other such services on the sole criteria that Jooos are involved   
   >> amply demonstrates."   
      
   >What's that supposed to be a quote from?   
      
   That is the part of your statement that you have left unsaid, as   
   demonstrated by your own posts.  The most recent example being   
   enumerated above.   
      
   >> >I object to being lied to.   
      
   >> But not to lying.   
   >>   
   >> And you object when no lie has been told.   
      
   >> >I object to being taxed to support or advance the cause of any tribal   
   >> >group.   
      
   >> You tax your abilities in an attempt to advance the cause of Holocaust   
   >> denial and anti-semitism in general.   
      
   >> >I object to attempts to suppress free speech on this or any other issue.   
      
   >> And yet not a peep out of you regarding the attempts by irving to   
   >> silence his critics on an ongoing basis...   
      
   >> >And   
   >> >so on. I don't hate the liars, demagogues, propagandists etc. but they   
   >> >should be exposed for what they are. That's all.   
      
   >> Which is why your irrational hatred is exposed every time you crawl   
   >> back out from under your rock...   
      
   >There it is again, this amazing "hatred" that you have so much invested in   
   >and yet cannot seem to find.   
      
      
   Why else would you distort a business service freely offered and   
   freely accepted into a "tax"  -- but only if it's da Jooos involved?   
      
   And one notes that you had no response to the other points raised.   
      
   >I think it was David Irving who said, "Jews thrive on being hated and   
   >despised." That certainly does seem to be the case here, though I'm sure it   
   >is not true of all Jews.   
      
   It is also irving that has a habit of suing people who say things he   
   doesn't like in order to silence them -- one of the things you profess   
   to hate.  Why no criticism of this tactic?   
      
   Because irving is not a Jooo, that's why.   
      
   >Well, go on and enjoy your imaginary "hatred" for whatever pleasure it gives   
   >you.   
      
   It gives me no pleasure what so ever.  Watching you jump through hoops   
   trying to deny it offers some little amusement, but only for a while   
   until the pity kicks in.   
      
   >> >> >Anyone who raises an eyebrow at well-organized   
   >> >> >pressure groups and propagandists who seek to promote their   
   >> >> >co-religionists'   
   >> >> >national socialism and brutal aggression at the expense of the   
   >> >> >American taxpayer, you call an "anti-Semite."   
      
   >> >> Of course, you have yet to demonstrate any of this, yet present it as   
   >> >> a given.   
      
   >> >You can demonstrate it yourself. Get a mirror. You are a living   
   >> >demonstration of what I'm talking about.   
      
   >> As someone that exposes your propaganda?  Absolutely.   
      
     [ . . . ]   
      
   >You forget, I am an anti-propagandist. I believe in exposing lies, myths and   
   >hoaxes. I have no propaganda to offer, myself.   
      
   ...other than that which exposes the Jooos to derision and hatred.   
      
      
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