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From: email@IsBelow.Text
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:53:08 +0100, Eric Johnson
wrote:
>On 18-12-2003 15:48, in article 18f3uvo8163g9mpebqch63tsag4103ckah@4ax.com,
>"Ken [NY)" wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:51:54 -0000, "Johnny"
>> wrote:
>>
>>>> Drag em out and hang em slow.....now....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> hank
>>>>
>>> yeah, even the innocent ones. Kill,kill,kill.
>>
>> You don't get on death rows unless you are guilty of killing
>> someone. No innocent person has ever been executed in the US.
>>
>
>Well, i'll have to agree with the first and vehemently disagree with the
>second?
>
>How the -fuck- do you know?
>
>Given the prosecutorial misconduct which routinely takes place in America's
>counties and municipalities and their attitude even when confronted with
>incontrovertible evidence of the innocence of the incarcerated(which,"but we
>got him fair and square, judge!), I think that all convictions are suspect
>enough to warrant suspension of the death penalty based on systemic problems
>like the one above.
>EJ
It's difficult for someone to provide proof that no innocent
person was ever executed in the US because it is of course difficult
to prove a negative. But it should be quite easy for you to provide a
cite naming someone who was, if it has happened.
But I did find the below:
Hall said much of the information on which O'Connor was basing her
statements came from the media and is not correct. It has never been
proved that anyone who was innocent has been executed. Cases in which
people have been found to be legally and/or factually innocent simply
prove the system works, she said.
"Nobody likes the death penalty," Hall said. "It's not a good thing.
It's not a happy thing. I wish we didn't have it. But it would cause a
lot more murders if we didn't have it."
Kent Scheidegger, legal director of the Criminal Justice Legal
Foundation, which favors capital punishment, agreed with Hall that
O'Connor had fallen victim to a myth. "From the minimal reports I have
read on Justice O'Connor's speech, it appears that she is among the
many people deceived by the most successful lie in contemporary public
affairs."
Scheidegger said death-row proponents contend that roughly 90 former
death-row inmates have been proved to be innocent. But they have not
been proved innocent, he said. Instead, they are "people whose
convictions have been reversed and who, for various reasons, have not
been successfully reprosecuted. That means the evidence available at
the time of retrial and admissible by the rules of evidence was not
sufficient to convince a jury unanimously of guilt beyond a reasonable
doubt. Either the jury hung, it returned a verdict of not guilty, or
the prosecutor decided not to proceed.
"There is a world of difference between these results and affirmative
proof of innocence."
http://www.truthinjustice.org/oconnor.htm
Corially,
Ken (NY)
Chairman,
Department Of Redundancy Department
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