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   From: pxhxz@cadence.com   
      
   In article <2ee6uvgs388f397vs4kqlokmh1731rkqon@4ax.com> "Ken [NY)"   
    writes:   
      
   >	No mistakes have ever been made regarding those executed. No   
   >innocent person has ever been executed in the US:   
      
   You don't know that.  All you know is that no-one has been PROVEN innocent   
   who has been executed, according to some quotes you found.  But perhaps the   
   people you are quoting are discounting real cases where someone who has been   
   executed has been proven innocent.  And how much effort is spent on proving   
   the innocence of someone who is dead?   
      
   Note that some people have been released from death row because it has been   
   proven that the evidence used to convict (such as semen, etc.) was proven to   
   not have come from the person convicted using DNA analysis.  So we know for   
   certain that some people have been convicted and sentenced to a death penalty   
   who have definitely not committed the crime they were convicted of.   
      
   And we DO know that some people who have committed worse crimes than some who   
   were executed were not given a death sentence.  This in itself is a travesty,   
   if you hold that people who deserve it should be killed.   
      
   >Scheidegger said death-row proponents contend that roughly 90 former   
   >death-row inmates have been proved to be innocent. But they have not   
   >been proved innocent, he said. Instead, they are "people whose   
   >convictions have been reversed and who, for various reasons, have not   
   >been successfully reprosecuted.   
      
   Which, under US law, means they are treated as if they were proven innocent.   
      
   And my belief is that some of these people indeed are factually innocent.   
      
   -Pete Zakel   
    (phz@seeheader.nospam)   
      
   "Prevalent beliefs that knowledge can be tapped from previous incarnations or   
    from a `universal mind' (the repository of all past wisdom and creativity)   
    not only are implausible but also unfairly demean the stunning achievements   
    of individual human brains."   
      
   		-Barry L. Beyerstein, "The Brain and Consciousness:   
   		 Implications for Psi Phenomena", The Skeptical Inquirer,   
   		 Vol. XII No. 2, ppg. 163-171   
      
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