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   From: email@IsBelow.Text   
      
   On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 15:50:00 -0600, Peter H. Proctor   
    wrote:   
      
   >>	If a confessed killer is released from death row because the   
   >>judge did not charge the jury correctly, does that not make him   
   >>innocent? The presumption, as you pointed out, is innocence.   
   >   
   >Can you show us a case of this ?  I do not recall any...   
      
   	I do, but they are impossible to look up.   
      
   >>	I still would like to hear about someone who was executed in   
   >>the US and later was found to be innocent, let's say, because someone   
   >>else confessed and was proven to be the real killer due to new   
   >>evidence based on the new confession. If that has happened, why can't   
   >>any of you come up with a single case?   
   >   
   >        Allegedly,  there are such cases.      I will let the   
   >antideath penalty folks cite them,  after they finish flaming me for   
   >my death penalty sympathies in some circumstances..   
      
   	Allegedly, yes. But the antis never come up with a single   
   case. We were arguing this last year, I believe and got no responses.   
      
   >  .     When someone is executed,  the case becomes "Moot".  so formal   
   >legal inquiry stops.   OTOH,  I can cite cases where the death penalty   
   >woul have been inflicted, "but for" my personal involvement.     In at   
   >least one tf these,  the person was actually innocent.      Makes ya   
   >wnder.....   
      
   	Wonder away, but I still say there have been no innocent   
   persons executed in this country and will continue to believe that   
   until proven otherwise. We all should be happy that no such cases   
   exist since it shows that the system does work correctly.   
   	On the other hand, then there is the case of Mumia Abu-Jamal,   
   in which the system did break down. That man should have been executed   
   a long time ago.   
      
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   Ken (NY)   
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