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From: jules@ersatz.com
On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 06:27:16 GMT, "basilod"
wrote:
>
>"Randy Sweeney" wrote in message
>news:vMCdnZCF1sp54HuiRVn-sw@comcast.com...
>>
>> "basilod" wrote in message news:EHuFb.8802
>>
>> > > No one starves in the United States. No one.
>> > >
>> > Have you ever walked around Manhattan, or have you ever been in its
>> subway?
>> > Can you also say that "No one is homeless in the United States. No
>one."?
>>
>> He didn't say that there were no homeless, only that there was no
>starvation
>> as one can find in the third world.
>>
>> But... let's talk about WHY the majority of homeless ARE homeless:
>> alcoholism, drug abuse, mental illness.
>>
>> The first two are problems with a lack of personal responsibility and no
>> amount of socialism will fix it.
>> The latter is due to our desire to pretend that everyone is fine.
>>
>> So, the majority of homeless will remain, regardless of economic
>> opportunity, unless we are willing as a society to re-open the mental
>> patient warehouses and place drunks and addicts into coercive rehab and/or
>> prison.
>
>Can you imagine a country in which there are no homeless even though housing
>is extremely insufficient, where there are no jobless even though more than
>half of the employable population are alcoholics in different degrees, where
>100% of the population has medical and dental coverage, where every woman
>gets a paid leave of absence three months before delivery and 6 months after
>delivery, where every kid is covered by kindergarten care, where high-school
>education is universal and, actually, obligatory; the country in which
>college education is not only free, but where college students are receiving
>stipends to live on; where each and every elderly is covered by old-age
>pension. No, I am not dreaming and the name of that country is not Utopia.
>Such a country actually existed until .... capitalism finally overcame in
>it. That country was called the USSR. Of course, that country had its own
>share of political and economic problems. Its economy finally fell victim
>of the decades long arms race and of the inefficient system of economic
>incentives. Nobody can deny those problems. However, the fact remains that
>in the country, some parts of which have lost almost one third of their
>population during WWII and where entire villages and big cities have been
>erased from the face of earth, NOBODY was thrown out into the streets, no
>matter what mental deficiency they were suffering from.
>Of course, now that country has capitalism, some of its old political
>problems have been resolved, homelessness is rampant, joblessness is
>rampant, drug abuse is rampant (in spite of widespread alcoholism there were
>practically no drug addicts in the old Soviet Union), much of the population
>cannot afford medical and dental care, the elderly are begging for food in
>the streets while a few greediest have become billionaires.
>I am sure that after the above two paragraphs Horatio Fudruckerton will
>have no other name for me than "libsoc," but I have only described
>realities, past and present. Why don't we work together to design and to
>implement a kind of society which will combine the best features of both
>social systems while avoiding the pitfalls of both. Does such a desire make
>me a "libsoc"?
>
I'm afraid it does basilod. You're also a heavy enabler and promoter
of liberal-inspired guilt trips. Those do not work anymore.
My local newspaper around every Thanksgiving shows a picture of a
homeless bum in an homeless-shelter advertisement asking for
donations, right smack middle of the 'local' section.
I can see their strategy, but it still reeks of yet even more
guilt-trip shenanigans whereas we can have a nice normal thanksgiving
dinner and Mr. Stinky-LiceHead has to get off his ass under the
bridges, put on hold his drinking from a paper-bag, and shuffle off to
the 'rescue mission' to eat a free meal.
My parents did not sacrifice and put me in college for the express
purpose of feeling overwhelming sorrow for those who did not.
My priorities are to my family first.
Guilt-trips only anger people more. That's why they have failed.
JD
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence
reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his
chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile
delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also
given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists,
including Al Qaeda members..."
---- Hillary Clinton, Oct 10, 2002
"Some have said we must not act until the threat is imminent. Since when have
terrorists and
tyrants announced their intentions, politely putting us on notice before they
strike?
If this threat is permitted to fully and suddenly emerge, all actions, all
words and all recriminations
would come too late."
-President George W. Bush
January 28, 2003
(Another liberal lie exposed.)
"Members and front organizations must continually embarrass, discredit and
degrade our critics.
When obstructionists become too irritating, label them as fascist, or Nazi or
anti-Semitic
.... The association will, after enough repetition, become "fact" in the
public mind."
--Communist Party, Moscow Central Committee 1943
"This time, I think the Americans are serious.
Bush is not Clinton. I think this is the end."
-Uday Hussein
--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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