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   From: DEMI_GOD_@SHAW.CA   
      
   "brian bennett"  wrote in message   
   news:3FE87C3A.25CBB6F2@keepyourspam-mindspring.com...   
   > "Peter H. Proctor" wrote:   
   >   
   > >   
   > >       Punishment has two functions-- to do justice and to deter   
   > > others....  In the Green River Killer's case,  deterrence  is a   
   > > secondary consideration...  And yes,  the fact that someone like him   
   > > who definitely "Needs Killin" gets life,  while a lessor criminal gets   
   > > the shot shows how arbitrary and capricious the death penalty is.   
   >   
   > the "deterrent effect" simply does not exist.  if people aren't   
   > worried about *eternal damnation* from the magic sky fairy, then the   
   > possibility of spending some time in a cage (or even sparked on fire)   
   > can hardly be construed as much of a "deterrent."  people who commit   
   > crimes simply don't expect to be apprehended -- they don't give the   
   > slightest consideration to the potential penalties.   
   >   
   > the law serves solely as a mechanism of retribution   
   >   
   >   
   I concur.   
      
   Beating the shits out of one to scare another might be justified in the mind   
   of the bullies in the capacity of "deterrence".  But a better word for it,   
   actually, would be an intimidation. It can be a good reason of a call for   
   destruction of the intimidator, though, - as their source of terror...   
      
   Similarly, bullies are inevitably becoming the victims of intimidated by   
   them "cowards" who couldn't take their shit anymore, got tired of going   
   scared, or eventually decided to change their attitudes.   
      
   Charges which lead to convictions are usually creeping slowly upon victims   
   of the incarceration industry and their affiliated agencies which use   
   predatory tactics against defenseless and least powerful members of   
   society...  Incarceration the innocent people, along with offenders for   
   victimless crimes in massive numbers -  is a powerful evidence of this fact.   
      
   Only retards would really believe that US incarcerates every year over 2,   
   000,000+ people for murder and rape... Most of the victims of the   
   incarceration industry were deliberately deceived, railroaded and   
   pigeonholed by a chain of its agents, beginning from pigs and ending by   
   COck-suckers...  Most money, however, is being skimmed during process of   
   conviction and then - during exploitation of the slave labor of hostages of   
   the incarceration industry - after placement in solid "custody" and   
   institutionalizing a person without any hopes, but with a broken soul.   
      
   Mainly inexperienced in the process of the "works" of the incarceration   
   industry, and ignorant about their rights and the laws, people are being   
   lead to the "chambers" by those they suppose to trust, while unsuspecting   
   sheer betrayal of their trust and own offering to the monster.   
      
   So, the factor of education (reeducation - when it's late for that) is   
   important for a person to adapt to the principles of society and   
   modification of own convictions and behavior in the process of crime   
   prevention as opposed to absurdity of "deterrence".   
      
   As far as I'm concerned, the hardest penalty, which will naturally compel a   
   person to conform to the law through education/reeducation, is offender's   
   relocation from environment which allowed him to commit his crime into a   
   foreign environment, where only the tools for one's reeducation are   
   available, rather then recommitment of similar crime.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)