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   Morf to jaybird   
   Re: Police killed son needlessly, mother   
   24 Dec 03 17:33:35   
   
   XPost: alt.law-enforcement, alt.thebird.copwatch, nyc.general   
   XPost: alt.true-crime   
   From: central222@hotmail.com   
      
   jaybird wrote:   
   >   
   > "frog"  wrote in message   
   > news:3c0a3d12.0312231242.1d9ca75@posting.google.com...   
   > > "jaybird"  wrote in message   
   > >   
   > > > If a person has a   
   > > > knife and they are threatening imminent serious bodily injury or death,   
   > then   
   > > > any person can use deadly force against that person regardless of their   
   > > > mental state.   
   > >   
   > > Do you find a 'kook' with a knife THAT threatening?   
   >   
   > Of course I do.  Anyone with a good knowledge of defense tactics and the   
   > effects of different objects used as weapons would too.   
      
      
   What would be the minimum age of a person refusing to drop a knife that   
   you would kill?   
      
   5? 3?   
      
   I guess it would depend if you were in the targeted area where any kill   
   is a good one.   
      
   > > > From the movies it may appear that it's easy to knock a knife   
   > > > from someone's hand with a baton, but it's not that way in real life.   
   > >   
   > > I bet you could crush someone's wrist with one blow.   
   >   
   > If it was stationary or immobile and I knew that I had one good chance to   
   > hit it, yes.  Otherwise, no.  The reaction times differ too much.   
   >   
   > >   
   > > > A knife can be met by a gun according to the law.   
   > >   
   > > A knife can be met with deadly force according to the law   
   >   
   > Right, same thing...   
   >   
   > >   
   > > > The cops used a taser, that   
   > > > didn't work, so the next level of force is a firearm to stop that   
   > threat,   
   > >   
   > > and not just a shoulder punch either.   
   >   
   > What do you mean by a shoulder punch?  I've never heard of that as a   
   > technique.   
   >   
   > >   
   > > > They were being generous in using the taser in the first place.   
   > >   
   > > Generous huh? :)   
   >   
   > Very.   
   >   
   > --   
   > ---   
   > jaybird   
   > ---   
   > I am not the cause of your problems.   
   > My actions are the result of your actions.   
   > Your life is not my fault.   
      
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