XPost: alt.law-enforcement, alt.thebird.copwatch, nyc.general   
   XPost: alt.true-crime   
   From: central222@hotmail.com   
      
   jaybird wrote:   
   >   
   > "Morf"  wrote in message   
   > news:3FE9CD51.1C57@hotmail.com...   
   > > frog wrote:   
   > > >   
   > > > "jaybird"  wrote in message   
   > > >   
   > > > > If a person has a   
   > > > > knife and they are threatening imminent serious bodily injury or   
   > death, then   
   > > > > any person can use deadly force against that person regardless of   
   > their   
   > > > > mental state.   
   > > >   
   > > > Do you find a 'kook' with a knife THAT threatening?   
   > > >   
   > > > > From the movies it may appear that it's easy to knock a knife   
   > > > > from someone's hand with a baton, but it's not that way in real life.   
   > > >   
   > > > I bet you could crush someone's wrist with one blow.   
   > > >   
   > > > > A knife can be met by a gun according to the law.   
   > > >   
   > > > A knife can be met with deadly force according to the law   
   > >   
   > >   
   > > So can a candy bar if the person imagining the threat is a cop.   
   > >   
   > > Or a sock, screwdriver, hammer, cell phone, wallet, etc.   
   >   
   > The candy bar, sock, cell phone, etc... would not be considered a threat if   
   > that object can be determined.   
      
   Unknown objects are assumed to be weapons.   
      
   A dangerous policy to follow.   
      
   The candy bar, cell phone, sock etc., can, and have been, used as   
   justification for execution.   
      
   > A screwdriver or hammer, on the other hand,   
   > can be a very serious threat.   
      
   Would you execute one of your family members if they refused to drop the   
   screwdriver?   
      
   > > > > The cops used a taser, that   
   > > > > didn't work, so the next level of force is a firearm to stop that   
   > threat,   
   > > >   
   > > > and not just a shoulder punch either.   
   > > >   
   > > > > They were being generous in using the taser in the first place.   
   > > >   
   > > > Generous huh? :)   
   > >   
   > >   
   > > Cops shove guns into people's faces every day and don't consdier it a   
   > > threat.   
   >   
   > Actually they do consider it a threat.   
      
      
   Yes, they threaten people with their guns whenever they are unsure of   
   anything.   
      
   Imaginary threats justify executions.   
      
   Terrorism.   
      
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   > jaybird   
   > ---   
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   > My actions are the result of your actions.   
   > Your life is not my fault.   
      
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