XPost: alt.law-enforcement, alt.thebird.copwatch, nyc.general   
   XPost: alt.true-crime   
   From: maklotz@worldnet.att.net   
      
   "Chris"  wrote in message   
   news:yPlGb.126778$b01.2791396@twister.tampabay.rr.com...   
   >   
   > "Morf"  wrote in message   
   > news:3FE9CCB9.5BCF@hotmail.com...   
   > > Unless the threatening person is a cop pointing a gun at you and you   
   > > have committed no crime.   
   > >   
   > > A citizen is not allowed to percieve a threat by a cop(God) as a threat.   
   >   
   > They are, within certain guidelines.   
   >   
   > Case in point, down here in Florida afew times someone has raped women   
   while   
   > posing as a police officer, waylaying these women along long dimly-lit   
   > stretches of road at night.   
   >   
   > Because of this history, it is an accepted reason for women to avoid   
   > stopping until they reach a well-lit area, in many cases.   
   >   
   > > > From the movies it may appear that it's easy to knock a knife   
   > > > from someone's hand with a baton, but it's not that way in real life.   
   > >   
   > > Mental patients are disarmed every day by non-cops.   
   >   
   > While it is fairly easy to disarm someone, mental patients are disarmed by   
   > TRAINED personnel, not merely by "non-cops".   
   >   
   > > > A   
   > > > knife can be met by a gun according to the law.  The cops used a   
   taser,   
   > that   
   > > > didn't work, so the next level of force is a firearm to stop that   
   > threat.   
   > > > They were being generous in using the taser in the first place.   
   >   
   > That is entirely accurate.  An armed assailant wielding a weapons   
   generally   
   > accepted as CAPABLE of lethal force, can be legally met with like lethal   
   > force.  It is a fair law, and is 100% reliant on the situation.  If   
   they're   
   > not applying lethal force, you may not.  Simple enough?   
      
   Unfortunately, all the police have to claim is that they were IN FEAR of   
   their life.  That is why people with cell phones, car keys, vegetable   
   peelers, etc., can be met with lethal force by police... so it really isn't   
   as simple as you would like to make it seem.   
   >   
   > > Hitler acted within his laws too.   
   >   
   > Typical.  Can't apply your logic to the facts at hand, invoke the name of   
   > someone despised, and long-dead.   
   >   
   > What Hitler did or did not do has NOTHING to do with being able to kill   
   > someone who is trying to take your life.  This isn't Nazi Germany, and   
   > Hitler is an eroded non-person.   
   >   
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