XPost: alt.law-enforcement, alt.thebird.copwatch, nyc.general   
   XPost: alt.true-crime   
   From: central222@hotmail.com   
      
   Chris wrote:   
   >   
   > "Morf"  wrote in message   
   > news:3FE9CCB9.5BCF@hotmail.com...   
   > > Unless the threatening person is a cop pointing a gun at you and you   
   > > have committed no crime.   
   > >   
   > > A citizen is not allowed to percieve a threat by a cop(God) as a threat.   
   >   
   > They are, within certain guidelines.   
   >   
   > Case in point, down here in Florida afew times someone has raped women while   
   > posing as a police officer, waylaying these women along long dimly-lit   
   > stretches of road at night.   
   >   
   > Because of this history, it is an accepted reason for women to avoid   
   > stopping until they reach a well-lit area, in many cases.   
   >   
   > > > From the movies it may appear that it's easy to knock a knife   
   > > > from someone's hand with a baton, but it's not that way in real life.   
   > >   
   > > Mental patients are disarmed every day by non-cops.   
   >   
   > While it is fairly easy to disarm someone, mental patients are disarmed by   
   > TRAINED personnel, not merely by "non-cops".   
      
      
   And the reason cops aren't trained in the same manner?   
      
   Would people stand for medical professionals executing anyone the   
   percieve as a threat?   
      
   > > > A   
   > > > knife can be met by a gun according to the law.  The cops used a taser,   
   > that   
   > > > didn't work, so the next level of force is a firearm to stop that   
   > threat.   
   > > > They were being generous in using the taser in the first place.   
   >   
   > That is entirely accurate.  An armed assailant wielding a weapons generally   
   > accepted as CAPABLE of lethal force, can be legally met with like lethal   
   > force.  It is a fair law, and is 100% reliant on the situation.  If they're   
   > not applying lethal force, you may not.  Simple enough?   
   >   
   > > Hitler acted within his laws too.   
   >   
   > Typical.  Can't apply your logic to the facts at hand, invoke the name of   
   > someone despised, and long-dead.   
   >   
   > What Hitler did or did not do has NOTHING to do with being able to kill   
   > someone who is trying to take your life.  This isn't Nazi Germany, and   
   > Hitler is an eroded non-person.   
      
   Self-justification of atrcoities is terrorism.   
      
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