XPost: alt.law-enforcement, alt.thebird.copwatch, nyc.general   
   XPost: alt.true-crime   
   From: central222@hotmail.com   
      
   Chris wrote:   
   >   
   > "Morf"  wrote in message   
   > news:3FEAAB8B.12F2@hotmail.com...   
   > > Chris wrote:   
   > > >   
   > > > "Morf"  wrote in message   
   > > > news:3FE9CCB9.5BCF@hotmail.com...   
   > > > > Unless the threatening person is a cop pointing a gun at you and you   
   > > > > have committed no crime.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > A citizen is not allowed to percieve a threat by a cop(God) as a   
   > threat.   
   > > >   
   > > > They are, within certain guidelines.   
   > > >   
   > > > Case in point, down here in Florida afew times someone has raped women   
   > while   
   > > > posing as a police officer, waylaying these women along long dimly-lit   
   > > > stretches of road at night.   
   > > >   
   > > > Because of this history, it is an accepted reason for women to avoid   
   > > > stopping until they reach a well-lit area, in many cases.   
   > > >   
   > > > > > From the movies it may appear that it's easy to knock a knife   
   > > > > > from someone's hand with a baton, but it's not that way in real   
   > life.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Mental patients are disarmed every day by non-cops.   
   > > >   
   > > > While it is fairly easy to disarm someone, mental patients are disarmed   
   > by   
   > > > TRAINED personnel, not merely by "non-cops".   
   > >   
   > >   
   > > And the reason cops aren't trained in the same manner?   
   >   
   > They are, within a point.   
      
   Show in the use of force continuum where it is part of their procedure.   
      
   It isn't.   
      
   > > Would people stand for medical professionals executing anyone the   
   > > percieve as a threat?   
   >   
   > Medical professionals aren't generally carrying a firearm in the ward.   
      
      
   Amazing, they must have superpowers that cops don't posess.   
      
   > > > > > A   
   > > > > > knife can be met by a gun according to the law.  The cops used a   
   > taser,   
   > > > that   
   > > > > > didn't work, so the next level of force is a firearm to stop that   
   > > > threat.   
   > > > > > They were being generous in using the taser in the first place.   
   > > >   
   > > > That is entirely accurate.  An armed assailant wielding a weapons   
   > generally   
   > > > accepted as CAPABLE of lethal force, can be legally met with like lethal   
   > > > force.  It is a fair law, and is 100% reliant on the situation.  If   
   > they're   
   > > > not applying lethal force, you may not.  Simple enough?   
   > > >   
   > > > > Hitler acted within his laws too.   
   > > >   
   > > > Typical.  Can't apply your logic to the facts at hand, invoke the name   
   > of   
   > > > someone despised, and long-dead.   
   > > >   
   > > > What Hitler did or did not do has NOTHING to do with being able to kill   
   > > > someone who is trying to take your life.  This isn't Nazi Germany, and   
   > > > Hitler is an eroded non-person.   
   > >   
   > > Self-justification of atrcoities is terrorism.   
   >   
   > Who is justifying atrocities?   
      
   Every cop that kills the innocent by reason of an imagined percieved   
   threat.   
      
   It happens all the time.   
      
   The same procedures remain in effect and the deaths of the innocent   
   continue.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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