XPost: alt.law-enforcement, alt.thebird.copwatch, nyc.general   
   XPost: alt.true-crime   
   From: rrufiange@cfl.rr.com   
      
   "geb"  wrote in message   
   news:rpUGb.242131$Ec1.8455608@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...   
   > > > Amazing, they must have superpowers that cops don't posess.   
   > >   
   > > Not really.  Also, you're comparing a secure facility with limited   
   > > availability on dangerous weapons with a "street" situation, where   
   > > EVERYTHING is available.  It's 100% inaccurate for comparison.   
   > >   
   > No, it is not inaccurate at all, not when police are calling vegetable   
   > peelers, wallets, etc., dangerous weapons and shooting people for   
   possession   
   > of same.   
      
   Yes, it is entirely inaccurate to compare the restraint of patients in a   
   secure and restricted mental ward with armed police instructing suspected   
   deviants to disarm themselves in an open street.   
      
   If you don't see the difference, put some glasses on.   
      
   > I find it interesting that you pointed out the fact that those in the   
   > medical profession don't carry firearms and therefore don't execute   
   > people... makes a good point for police not carrying firearms as well.   
   > After all, as many have explained in the past, they will use what they   
   have   
   > handy, so if we keep equipping our police with guns, that is what they   
   will   
   > use.  If they don't have a gun, they will have to think of something else,   
   > some other way of handling it.  Again, good point.   
      
   No it doesn't.  Read above.  Mental patients are "unarmed" by default, and   
   must undergo extraordinary measures to arm themselves in even the most basic   
   way, oh, and wrong again, as orderlies do sometimes kill patients, both   
   accidentally and on purpose.   
      
   Guns are a technology, and "zip guns" can even be constructed by most   
   people.  As such, disarming our police won't make guns in the hands of the   
   criminals go away.  If anything, it'll make the police "go away", often as a   
   result of a gun-related conflict.  When a police officer can't respond in   
   kind to the criminal, his job is an impossible one.   
      
   And, you'll admit an unarmed cop isn't very smart to wade into a gangland   
   gunfight to slap cuffs on armed thugs, if they feel cordial enough to obey   
   the instructions to lower their guns.   
      
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