XPost: alt.law-enforcement, alt.thebird.copwatch, nyc.general   
   XPost: alt.true-crime   
   From: central222@hotmail.com   
      
   Chris wrote:   
   >   
   > "geb"  wrote in message   
   > news:rpUGb.242131$Ec1.8455608@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...   
   > > > > Amazing, they must have superpowers that cops don't posess.   
   > > >   
   > > > Not really.  Also, you're comparing a secure facility with limited   
   > > > availability on dangerous weapons with a "street" situation, where   
   > > > EVERYTHING is available.  It's 100% inaccurate for comparison.   
   > > >   
   > > No, it is not inaccurate at all, not when police are calling vegetable   
   > > peelers, wallets, etc., dangerous weapons and shooting people for   
   > possession   
   > > of same.   
   >   
   > Yes, it is entirely inaccurate to compare the restraint of patients in a   
   > secure and restricted mental ward with armed police instructing suspected   
   > deviants to disarm themselves in an open street.   
   >   
   > If you don't see the difference, put some glasses on.   
   >   
   > > I find it interesting that you pointed out the fact that those in the   
   > > medical profession don't carry firearms and therefore don't execute   
   > > people... makes a good point for police not carrying firearms as well.   
   > > After all, as many have explained in the past, they will use what they   
   > have   
   > > handy, so if we keep equipping our police with guns, that is what they   
   > will   
   > > use.  If they don't have a gun, they will have to think of something else,   
   > > some other way of handling it.  Again, good point.   
   >   
   > No it doesn't.  Read above.  Mental patients are "unarmed" by default, and   
   > must undergo extraordinary measures to arm themselves in even the most basic   
   > way, oh, and wrong again, as orderlies do sometimes kill patients, both   
   > accidentally and on purpose.   
   >   
   > Guns are a technology, and "zip guns" can even be constructed by most   
   > people.  As such, disarming our police won't make guns in the hands of the   
   > criminals go away.  If anything, it'll make the police "go away", often as a   
   > result of a gun-related conflict.  When a police officer can't respond in   
   > kind to the criminal, his job is an impossible one.   
   >   
   > And, you'll admit an unarmed cop isn't very smart to wade into a gangland   
   > gunfight to slap cuffs on armed thugs, if they feel cordial enough to obey   
   > the instructions to lower their guns.   
      
      
   You completely miss the point that a cop executes people knowing full   
   well the person is likely nuts.   
      
   Nuts = Not guilty.   
      
   Killing the not guilty is an unsanctioned execution.   
      
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