On Fri, 21 Jun 2024 18:22:19 -0000 (UTC), The Running Man   
    wrote:   
      
   >On 21/06/2024 18:56 D  wrote:   
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   >> On Fri, 21 Jun 2024, The Running Man wrote:   
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   >>> On 20/06/2024 16:08 D  wrote:   
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   >>>>   
   >>>> On Thu, 20 Jun 2024, The Running Man wrote:   
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   >>>>> On 19/06/2024 20:26 mark@invalid.com wrote:   
   >>>>>> "Investigators have realized that automobiles particularly newer   
   >>>>>> models can be treasure troves of digital evidence," CNBC reported in   
   >>>>>> 2020. "Their onboard computers generate and store data that can be   
   >>>>>> used to reconstruct where a vehicle has been and what its passengers   
   >>>>>> were doing. They reveal everything from location, speed and   
   >>>>>> acceleration to when doors were opened and closed, whether texts and   
   >>>>>> calls were made while the cellphone was plugged into the infotainment   
   >>>>>> system, as well as voice commands and web histories."   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> https://reason.com/2024/03/25/stop-your-car-from-spying-on-you/   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I suspect older, fast high-end cars will become extremely popular among   
   criminal gangs.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I imagine that perhaps there will be some nice underground car shops that   
   >>>> might offer to disconnect surveillance as well.   
   >>>   
   >>> Why underground? Is it illegal to do so now?   
   >>   
   >> That's a very good question. Knowing Tesla, I would imagine that it is   
   >> definitely illegal to have a non-authorized repair shop poke around your   
   >> car.   
   >   
   >That's a different matter. Tesla isn't the LAW. They can have T's & C's but   
   they can't mandate anything.   
      
   But the insurance company can screw you with a LARGE increase in $$.   
   The auto company could limit greatly your warranty.  Repair shops   
   might hesitate in repairing such vehicles because the auto   
   manufacturer might find ways of screwing them on replacement parts if   
   they assist buyers who deny the dealer and manufacturer the info they   
   claim they need.   They could claim that the owner might not have kept   
   up with the proper oil changes, or other normal upkeep of the vehicle.   
      
   Who knows what the system is capable if it wants to screw the user?   
      
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