XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.system, comp.mobile.ipad   
   From: andrew@spam.net   
      
   Chris wrote on Wed, 3 Jul 2024 11:23:08 -0000 (UTC) :   
      
   >> Bullshit. Google & Samsung have been five years published for a while.   
   >   
   > Nope. Google published theirs in Oct/Nov last year and Samsung earlier this   
   > year.   
      
   I feel your frantic desperation to deny what the recently published   
   statements from Apple/Google/Samsung promise (all of which came out at the   
   same time due to EU requirements) - but you have to accept the facts.   
      
   Only recently did the EU force OEMs to state the promised full support   
   lifetime of their operating systems, which is when they published this:   
   1. Apple === 5 years (up to 1 release)   
   2. Google === 7 years (up to 7 releases)   
   3. Samsung === 7 years (up to 7 releases)   
      
   Trust me that I understand how desperate you are to deny all facts about   
   Apple products that you're ignorant of & hence hate - but it's a fact.   
      
   >> Plus that includes *multiple* releases   
   >   
   > Over the seven years, yes, but there's no mention of  *concurrent* support   
   > for multiple releases. I'd be very, very surprised that they will support   
   > six versions of the OS at the same thing.   
      
   Again, trust me that I understand why you're so desperate to shore up your   
   crumbling foundation that you felt all along Apple support was the best.   
      
   Not the worst (which is what it is - when you look at they actual facts).   
      
   Yes. I understand your concern, but rest assured, for my free Samsung   
   Galaxy A32-5G for example (which is on 13 but was on 12 and 11 prior to   
   that), they have *always* fully supported multiple concurrent releases.   
      
   In addition, Microsoft has also clearly fully supported multiple concurrent   
   releases (e.g., both Windows 11 and Windows 10 are fully supported today).   
      
   While your concern is valid, if we simply compare Microsoft to Apple for   
   the PC, it's patently obvious M$ full support is far better than Apple's.   
      
   >  > (whereas Apple only fully supports a   
   >> single release   
   >   
   > Incorrect. Over the course of the lifetime of phone it gets multiple fully   
   > supported releases. Typically 5 or 6.   
   >   
   > Just like google/samsung's promise.   
      
   Hell, I'm a sensible logical reasonable well-educated intelligent person   
   Chris, so I get your point that while Appel clearly has never   
   simultaneously fully supported more than one release at a time - you're   
   concerned that maybe the (longer) Google/Samsung promise is similar.   
      
   I agree with you that we need to see it in writing, since marketing is   
   rather clever at leading uneducated unintelligent people astray.   
      
   So let's leave that as an open question to be resolved in the future.   
      
      
   >> Plus Google has been updating *all Android phones* with Android 10 and   
   >> above over the Internet for the two dozen core operating system modules.   
   >   
   > Meaningless. That isn't "full" support as you love to shout about.   
      
   Again, I am eminently logical such that I sympathize with your emotional   
   concerns that fixing all known bugs monthly in dozens of core packages   
   found in billions of Android 10 devices around the world from many OEMs is   
   of no importance to you as an Apple user (because Apple doesn't do that).   
      
   But here's the thing when it comes to who has the worst OS support of all:   
   Q: Does Android at least fix all known bugs monthly in those packages?   
   A: Yes.   
      
   Q: Does Apple do anything similar?   
   A: No.   
      
   Still, trust me, I feel your desperation to ridicule the fact that Android   
   has been updating billions of devices monthly for all known bugs in over   
   two dozen core packages. I really do. It's palpable how desperate you are.   
      
   The reason is obvious: You had no idea Apple support was that bad.   
   Why were you so unaware that Apple has the worst support in the industry?   
      
   Because you are a herd animal.   
   You don't think for yourself.   
      
   You only believe what Apple told you.   
   And Apple never told you that.   
      
   >> That has no known EOL date so as far as we know it goes on forever   
   >   
   > You're a very funny man. I hope you don't actually believe that.   
   >    
      
   Heh heh heh... we have very long threads on both the Usenet Android   
   newsgroup and on the XDA Developers web site where the general consensus is   
   that Google has not stated any EOL date for the end of Project Mainline.   
      
   Even if they did, the fact all the code is donated to the open source   
   community, by design, indicates even if there were an EOL date in the   
   future, then the open source community could continue ad infinitum.   
      
   Again, I understand why you lied above - because you're desperate to make   
   all facts I provide to you go away - but your brazen lies just point out   
   how desperate you are to avoid realizing why Apple has the worst full   
   hotfix operating system support in the industry.   
      
   I feel sorry for you, Chris.   
   And I mean that.   
      
   You're desperate to discount every fact that goes against your purely   
   religious belief system (which itself, was never based on any facts).   
      
   >>> They have been forced to do this as their support of current and older   
   >>> models has been woeful. Approx 2-3 years was what you could hope for. Even   
   >>> for flagship models.   
   >>   
   >> Bullshit. Android has been fully supporting over two dozen core operating   
   >> system modules since Android 10 - which is billions of Android phones.   
   >   
   > Hahaha! "Fully supporting select services" is laughable.   
      
   Again, I feel sorry for you strange religious zealots because you don't   
   know how any operating systems update, let alone how Apple updates them.   
      
   The fact is that all Android 10+ phones, since 2019, have been updating   
   about two dozen core modules monthly for all bugs that Google knows about.   
      
   The only question you need to answer, instead of ridiculing that, is:   
   Q: Does Apple do this?   
   A: Yes or no?   
      
   In summary, when you understand how Microsoft, Google & Samsung update   
   their operating systems, you'll eventually realize this is a fact:   
    *Apple has the worst full operating system support in the industry*   
      
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