XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.system, comp.mobile.ipad   
   From: ithinkiam@gmail.com   
      
   Andrew  wrote:   
   > Chris wrote on Wed, 3 Jul 2024 22:28:13 -0000 (UTC) :   
   >>> Yes. I understand your concern, but rest assured, for my free Samsung   
   >>> Galaxy A32-5G for example (which is on 13 but was on 12 and 11 prior to   
   >>> that), they have *always* fully supported multiple concurrent releases.   
   >>   
   >> Prove it. If they're fully supported, by your definition, they should have   
   >> received the same number of patches in the last nine months and covered the   
   >> same CVEs.   
   >   
   > When the link propagates to the Usenet search engines, I will give you the   
   > link to the thread that asks directly of Android users your question.   
      
   Why don't you do your own analysis? Like I did with the Apple releases to   
   show that Apple indeed does actively support multiple releases. It's not   
   like you have anything else to do.   
      
   > What we KNOW is Apple says they do not do SIMULTANEOUS full support.   
   > What we want to narrow down is whether Google/Samsung say that, or not.   
      
   I've shown that Apple actively supports iOS 15 onwards. Actions speak   
   louder than words.   
      
   >>> In addition, Microsoft has also clearly fully supported multiple concurrent   
   >>> releases (e.g., both Windows 11 and Windows 10 are fully supported today).   
   >>>   
   >>> While your concern is valid, if we simply compare Microsoft to Apple for   
   >>> the PC, it's patently obvious M$ full support is far better than Apple's.   
   >>   
   >> Really? How many global breaches that have affected many multibillion orgs   
   >> has windows been responsible for over the last 10 years?   
   >> Then compare with macOS.   
   >> I'll wait.   
   >   
   > For known exploits, the information is all here for you to peruse.   
   >     
      
   That's not an answer. Take Wannacry it reportedly cost $4bn in damage:   
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WannaCry_ransomware_attack   
      
   How much more damage has Microsoft's buggy software caused? Nothing of that   
   scale has ever happened with Apple.   
      
   >> The point you're missing is that if android only updates a select handful   
   >> of services and leaves the remainder unpatched and vulnerable then that's   
   >> not a fully supported OS. And is meaningless in terms of security.   
   >   
   > I understand why you're so emotionally desperate to claim that updating   
   > dozens of core modules for billions of Android phones monthly is   
   > "meaningless" in terms of security, we'll just have to disagree on that.   
      
   What does fully supported OS look like to you? (A) Only supporting some   
   "core services" or (B) actively patching all known vulnerabilities in the   
   OS?   
      
   You seem to be demanding (B) of Apple, but accepting (A) for Android.   
   That's hardly a fair comparison.   
      
   You're the one desperate to push a biased agenda based on your opinions   
   only.   
      
   When you actually look at the facts the differences are minimal. But you're   
   not really interested in facts only bias affirming opinions.   
      
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