XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.system, comp.mobile.ipad   
   From: andrew@spam.net   
      
   Chris wrote on Thu, 4 Jul 2024 07:58:07 -0000 (UTC) :   
      
   >> When the link propagates to the Usenet search engines, I will give you the   
   >> link to the thread that asks directly of Android users your question.   
   >   
   > Why don't you do your own analysis? Like I did with the Apple releases to   
   > show that Apple indeed does actively support multiple releases. It's not   
   > like you have anything else to do.   
      
   Only one word matters, Chris - which is the answer to this simply question:   
   Q: Does Apple publicly state that they only fully support a single release?   
   A: Yes or No   
      
   Chris - I get it that you *hate* that I'm the one who had to break it to   
   you that Apple was forced by security researchers to admit they have never   
   in their entire history ever provided full support to more than one   
   release.   
      
   You think I don't understand you strange religious zealots by now Chris?   
      
   1. All you religious zealots were blissfully ignorant of that basic fact.   
   2. Or, all you religious fundamentalists lied for years about that fact.   
      (Pick one.)   
      
   >> What we KNOW is Apple says they do not do SIMULTANEOUS full support.   
   >> What we want to narrow down is whether Google/Samsung say that, or not.   
   >   
   > I've shown that Apple actively supports iOS 15 onwards. Actions speak   
   > louder than words.   
      
   Do you think I don't understand how uneducated children like you act?   
      
   You're so completely ignorant of how operating systems are updated that you   
   don't even realize every operating system vendor will fix a bug once in a   
   while in any release (particularly if that bug is so egregious as to garner   
   too much bad publicity).   
      
   If you don't think I didn't know you were desperate to weasel out of your   
   lies, rest assured I realize why you inserted the word "actively" above.   
      
   I don't know if you're pissing in your pants in fear, but I do know that   
   you're desperate to find a way to NOT answer this fundamental question:   
      
   Q: Does Apple publicly state that they only fully support a single release?   
   A: Yes or No   
      
   >> For known exploits, the information is all here for you to peruse.   
   >>     
   >   
   > That's not an answer. Take Wannacry it reportedly cost $4bn in damage:   
   > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WannaCry_ransomware_attack   
      
   Chris, do you think I'm not aware of the whataboutism that all you   
   religious fundamentalist zealots employ to avoid answering the question?   
      
   Q: Does Apple publicly state that they only fully support a single release?   
   A: Yes or No   
      
   > How much more damage has Microsoft's buggy software caused?   
   > Nothing of that scale has ever happened with Apple.   
      
   Just wait until they count up the cost of ransomware inserted using this   
   exploit in millions of iOS & mac apps over the long period of 10 years.   
    *Almost every Apple device vulnerable to CocoaPods supply chain attack*   
       
      
   You probably don't even know about this vulnerability - which is classic   
   because none of you religious zealots ever read what in the news.   
      
   >>> The point you're missing is that if android only updates a select handful   
   >>> of services and leaves the remainder unpatched and vulnerable then that's   
   >>> not a fully supported OS. And is meaningless in terms of security.   
   >>   
   >> I understand why you're so emotionally desperate to claim that updating   
   >> dozens of core modules for billions of Android phones monthly is   
   >> "meaningless" in terms of security, we'll just have to disagree on that.   
   >   
   > What does fully supported OS look like to you?   
   > "core services" or (B) actively patching all known vulnerabilities in the   
   > OS?   
   >   
   > You seem to be demanding (B) of Apple, but accepting (A) for Android.   
   > That's hardly a fair comparison.   
   >   
   > You're the one desperate to push a biased agenda based on your opinions   
   > only.   
   >   
   > When you actually look at the facts the differences are minimal. But you're   
   > not really interested in facts only bias affirming opinions.   
      
   Chris. I have had small children. My children have had small children.   
   My grandchildren just has babies. Stop acting like those small children.   
      
   Everyone who has any knowledge whatsoever of computers knows what it means.   
   I get it that you're desperate to find a flaw.   
   I get it that you are embarrassed that you were wrong about Apple.   
      
   I get it even that you're blissfully unaware that every operating system   
   vendor will fix a bug or few in older releases when they're really bad.   
      
   But fixing one bug and fixing every known bug are two different things.   
   Apple promises only one thing, Chris - and it's not what you claim it is.   
      
   If you can't answer this simple question, then I'm right about you zealots.   
   Q: Does Apple publicly state that they only fully support a single release?   
   A: Yes or No   
      
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