XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.system, comp.sys.mac.advocacy   
   XPost: comp.mobile.ipad   
   From: andrew@spam.net   
      
   Chris wrote on Sat, 6 Jul 2024 07:33:51 -0000 (UTC) :   
      
   >> You Apple nutcases always claim that I love Google & Microsoft.   
   >   
   > You're fantasising again. No-one has said that.   
      
   No. You're who is fantasizing. I'm on record many times for telling the   
   ugly truth about any and all operating systems, from Canonical's Unity   
   (which I hated) to Microsoft's removal of the start menu, to Google   
   creating accounts on the phone when you use GMail, to Apple's brazen lies   
   that they provide safety and security when Apple does nothing of the sort.   
      
   Apple advertises safety & security.   
      
   Zealots are claiming that safety & security is impossible on Apple products   
   because of the way millions of those Apple products are developed using   
   Apple software (Xcode).   
      
   What's no longer shocking is those who say in one breath that Apple   
   provides safety and security and yet, in the next breath these Apple   
   religious zealots claim safety & security is beyond Apple's control   
      
   >> Let me tell you something, Chris - which you should already know by now.   
   >>   
   >> I tell the truth (with cites) about every consumer operating system, Chris.   
   >   
   > You have no concept of the truth or facts.   
      
   You are a religious zealot. Your entire belief system is based purely on   
   Apple advertisements. Apple advertises safety & security. You believe it.   
      
   But then....   
      
   > And when you get caught out, you snip and run.   
      
       Apple advertises safety & security. You believe it.   
      
       But then....   
      
   Then, when the XCode/CocoPods vulnerability shows up which researchers   
   found, you claim that Apple is too incompetent to even have *thought* about   
   testing the iOS/macOS software that billions of Apple users use.   
      
   Not only do you claim Apple is too incompetent to even have thought about   
   testing macOS/iOS apps for safety and security, but you claim that Apple   
   doesn't have the technical capacity to test for safety & security.   
      
   Witness your own post here, Chris, saying exactly that.   
       
      
   >> Since the flaw is so fantastically pervasive, and since it allows   
   >> zero-click exploits on only Apple products, don't you think Apple should   
   >> have cared about testing this since it affects billions of users?   
   >   
   > What libraries developers use is their responsibility, not Apple's. It's   
   > the same with all OSes.   
   >   
   > If Apple became even more prescriptive regarding how apps should be   
   > developed you'd be the first to claim foul play and complain even more   
   > about the "walled garden".   
      
   Apple advertises safety & security.   
      
   Zealots are claiming that safety & security is impossible on Apple products   
   because of the way millions of those Apple products are developed using   
   Apple software (Xcode).   
      
   What's no longer shocking is those who say in one breath that Apple   
   provides safety and security and yet, in the next breath these Apple   
   religious zealots claim safety & security is beyond Apple's control.   
      
   All you're really saying is you believe Apple's lies even as you know that   
   they are lies (since you believe Apple can't provide safety & security).   
      
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