XPost: comp.mobile.android, alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.comp.os.windows-11   
   XPost: alt.os.linux   
   From: andrew@spam.net   
      
   Steve Hayes wrote on Wed, 10 Jul 2024 05:15:19 +0200 :   
      
   >>Are we talking at different things??   
   >   
   > Yes, we are talking about different things.   
   >   
   > We are talking about computers that are no longer computers, but are   
   > being turned into dumb terminals because they will not perform   
   > functions that a stand-alone computer normall performs, like saving a   
   > document, without being tethered, not merely to the Internet, but to a   
   > particular site on  the internet owned by the vendor of the computer's   
   > operating system - like asn Apple computer not working unless it is   
   > linked to the Apple company's web site, or a Microsoft computer not   
   > working unless it is linked to the Microsoft company's web site.   
      
   While this thread is specifically NOT about the dumb-terminal design of   
   Apple systems, it's well known to everyone that if you don't log into the   
   Apple servers every moment of every day of the rest of your life, all the   
   "walled-garden" stuff Apple users crow about, suddenly stops working.   
      
   Ask me how I know this (see images in the original post proving it).   
      
   It needs to be stated that this Alan Baker guy is what most of us would   
   refer to as a strange Apple religious fundamentalist zealot, who feels his   
   only value in life is to defend Apple to the death, no matter what.   
      
   He doesn't even realize he had to log into Apple servers on the Internet   
   just to create the AppleID which is an Internet requirement that is found   
   on no other common consumer operating system.   
      
   Once he has that Apple ID on the Internet, he doesn't realize all his apps   
   are tied specifically to that unique Apple ID such that no app installer   
   can be copied to another device (that doesn't have his unique Apple ID).   
      
   Again, that every app (even free apps) are locked to his specific ID is a   
   requirement that is found on no other common consumer operating system.   
      
   Once he installs that app, which is locked to his Apple ID, if that app is   
   a key component of the infamous walled garden (such as Messages or   
   Facetime), then again he has to log into *another* Apple server on the   
   Internet to use all the features of the walled garden he crows about.   
      
   It's well known that I have many Apple products where I specifically   
   decided to NOT log into the Apple Internet servers, where Apple   
   unilaterally bricks your login after about two years (twice!), and then,   
   you have to literally visit an Apple store, in person, where they literally   
   copy down your government ID (Apple's policy, as stated to me by Apple, is   
   that you MUST show your government ID - nothing else is acceptable), and   
   then, and only then, will Apple unlock your ID that they bricked simply   
   because you refused to log into it over time. (Again, see images posted.)   
      
   How's that for privacy!   
      
   In summary, while this thread is specifically NOT about the Apple   
   ecosystem, the idiocy spewed by Alan Baker requires that it be openly   
   stated that no other common consumer operating system requires that you   
   create, maintain and constantly log into the mothership tracking servers.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)