XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone   
   From: loralandclinton@invalid.co   
      
   Alan wrote:   
   > On 2024-07-29 15:11, Chips Loral wrote:   
   >> Alan wrote:   
   >>> On 2024-07-29 04:23, Andrew wrote:   
   >>>> Chris wrote on Mon, 29 Jul 2024 06:50:53 -0000 (UTC) :   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>> You not comprehending the difference between zero percent of Apple   
   >>>>>> reports   
   >>>>>> versus zero total convictions is how I know you zealots own   
   >>>>>> subnormal IQs.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Not at all. My position hasn't changed. You, however, have had   
   >>>>> about three   
   >>>>> different positions on this thread and keep getting confused which one   
   >>>>> you're arguing for. lol.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Au contraire   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Because I only think logically, my rather sensible position has never   
   >>>> changed, Chris, and the fact you "think" it has changed is simply   
   >>>> that you   
   >>>> don't know the difference between the percentage of convictions   
   >>>> based on   
   >>>> the number of reports, and the total number of convictions.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> When you figure out that those two things are different, then (and only   
   >>>> then) will you realize I've maintained the same position throughout.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Specifically....   
   >>>>   
   >>>> a. If the Apple reporting rate is low, and yet if their conviction   
   >>>>     rate is high (based on the number of reports), then they are NOT   
   >>>>     underreporting images.   
   >>>   
   >>> Apple's reporting rate is ZERO, because they're not doing scanning of   
   >>> images of any kind.   
   >>   
   >> After getting caught.   
   >>   
   >> You can't seem to get ANYTHING right, Mac-troll:   
   >>   
   >> https://www.wired.com/story/apple-photo-scanning-csam-communi   
   ation-safety-messages/   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> In August 2021, Apple announced a plan to scan photos that users   
   >> stored in iCloud for child sexual abuse material (CSAM). The tool was   
   >> meant to be privacy-preserving and allow the company to flag   
   >> potentially problematic and abusive content without revealing anything   
   >> else. But the initiative was controversial, and it soon drew   
   >> widespread criticism from privacy and security researchers and digital   
   >> rights groups who were concerned that the surveillance capability   
   >> itself could be abused to undermine the privacy and security of iCloud   
   >> users around the world. At the beginning of September 2021, Apple said   
   >> it would pause the rollout of the feature to “collect input and make   
   >> improvements before releasing these critically important child safety   
   >> features.” In other words, a launch was still coming.   
   >>   
   >> Parents and caregivers can opt into the protections through family   
   >> iCloud accounts. The features work in Siri, Apple’s Spotlight search,   
   >> and Safari Search to warn if someone is looking at or searching for   
   >> child sexual abuse materials and provide resources on the spot to   
   >> report the content and seek help.   
   >>   
   >> https://sneak.berlin/20230115/macos-scans-your-local-files-now/   
   >>   
   >> Preface: I don’t use iCloud. I don’t use an Apple ID. I don’t use the   
   >> Mac App Store. I don’t store photos in the macOS “Photos” application,   
   >> even locally. I never opted in to Apple network services of any kind -   
   >> I use macOS software on Apple hardware.   
   >>   
   >> Today, I was browsing some local images in a subfolder of my Documents   
   >> folder, some HEIC files taken with an iPhone and copied to the Mac   
   >> using the Image Capture program (used for dumping photos from an iOS   
   >> device attached with an USB cable).   
   >>   
   >> I use a program called Little Snitch which alerts me to network   
   >> traffic attempted by the programs I use. I have all network access   
   >> denied for a lot of Apple OS-level apps because I’m not interested in   
   >> transmitting any of my data whatsoever to Apple over the network -   
   >> mostly because Apple turns over customer data on over 30,000 customers   
   >> per year to US federal police without any search warrant per Apple’s   
   >> own self-published transparency report. I’m good without any of that   
   >> nonsense, thank you.   
   >>   
   >> Imagine my surprise when browsing these images in the Finder, Little   
   >> Snitch told me that macOS is now connecting to Apple APIs via a   
   >> program named mediaanalysisd (Media Analysis Daemon - a background   
   >> process for analyzing media files).   
   >>   
   >> ...   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> Integrate this data and remember it: macOS now contains network-based   
   >> spyware even with all Apple services disabled. It cannot be disabled   
   >> via controls within the OS: you must used third party network   
   >> filtering software (or external devices) to prevent it.   
   >>   
   >> This was observed on the current version of macOS, macOS Ventura 13.1.   
   >>   
   >   
   > 'A recent thread on Twitter raised concerns that the macOS process   
   > mediaanalysisd, which scans local photos, was secretly sending the   
   > results to an Apple server. This claim was made by a cybersecurity   
   > researcher named Jeffrey Paul. However, after conducting a thorough   
   > analysis of the process, it has been determined that this is not the case.'   
   >   
      
      
   Bullshit.   
      
   https://www.majorgeeks.com/content/page/stop_apple_scanning_iphone_photos.html   
      
   Apple’s new iPhone photo-scanning feature is a very controversial thing.   
   You might want to consider the only current option to stop Apple from   
   scanning your photos.   
      
   Apple's new photo-scanning feature will scan photos stored in iCloud to   
   see whether they match known Child Sexual Abuse Material (CSAM). The   
   problem with this, like many others, is that we often have hundreds of   
   photos of our children and grandchildren, and who knows how good or bad   
   the new software scanning technology is? Apple claims false positives   
   are one trillion to one, and there is an appeals process in place. That   
   said, one mistake from this AI, just one, could have an innocent person   
   sent to jail and their lives destroyed.   
      
   Apple has many other features as part of these upgrades to protect   
   children, and we like them all, but photo-scanning sounds like a problem   
   waiting to happen.   
      
   Here are all of the "features" that come with anti-CSAM, expected to   
   roll out with iOS 15 in the fall of 2021.   
      
   Messages: The Messages app will use on-device machine learning to warn   
   children and parents about sensitive content.   
      
   iCloud Photos: Before an image is stored in iCloud Photos, an on-device   
   matching process is performed for that image against the known CSAM hashes.   
      
   Siri and Search: Siri and Search will provide additional resources to   
   help children and parents stay safe online and get help with unsafe   
   situations.   
      
   Now that you understand how anti-CSAM works, the only way to avoid   
   having your photos scanned by this system is to disable iCloud Photos.   
      
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