From: running_man@writeable.com   
      
   On 27/08/2024 17:28 D  wrote:   
   > On 27 Aug 2024 11:48:15 GMT, Julius Bernotas  wrote:   
   >>Anton Shepelev  writes:   
   >>>D. Ray:   
   >>>> Telegram founder Pavel Durov was arrested in France on   
   >>>> Saturday allegedly as part of an investigation into his   
   >>>> platform for not having enough "moderation."   
   >>   
   >>>It is not so much about moderation as about his pricipal   
   >>>refusal to disclose the encryption keys to third parties   
   >>>(including the Russian government).   
   >>>Considering the extensive use of Telegram by the Russian   
   >>>military as a means of secure communication on the Ukrainian   
   >>>front (for lack of a better one), the sad joke here is the   
   >>>they arrested our Chief of Communications.  Rumours have it   
   >>>that Durov has anticipated his arrest and activated a   
   >>>security protocol ensuring the French not get access.   
   >>   
   >>IIRC Telegram's founder originally fled Russia and went to Israel.   
   >>The Russian authorities had difficulties tracking down people   
   >>who were writing things that were against the official line   
   >>of the regime on Telegram. So the Russian authorities got annoyed   
   >>by Telegram and Telegram's founder had to flee Russia.   
   >>The Russian authorities even slowed down the speed of   
   >>internet connections to Telegram's servers inside Russia   
   >>on February 2022 and in the 6 following months. I wonder   
   >>if the internet speed for connections to Telegram's servers is   
   >>still artificially being slowed down.   
   >>I'm trying to figure out whether   
   >>I understand you correctly. Are you saying that Telegram   
   >>is an official means of communication for the Russian military   
   >>on the Ukrainian front? Or are you saying that Telegram is used   
   >>on the front as a normal means of communication? Used mainly   
   >>by soldiers. To keep in touch with their circle of friends. Any   
   >>people anywhere in the world would use Telegram to keep in touch with   
   >>their circle of friends. Not just Russian soldiers on the Ukrainian   
   >>front. And are you saying that Telegram is not a means of   
   >>communication used by Russian military officials on the   
   >>Ukrainian front? To transmit orders for example.   
   >   
   > =-6667 Header {^Path: .*news.dfncis.de}   
   > # mnemonic "third part", mutable, siva   
   >   
   > why would anyone, military or otherwise, use open channels, public   
   > social media for example, to communicate top-secret/sensitive data,   
   > entrusting corporate criminals with encryption? ...pigs have wings   
   >   
   > as a casual user of remailers for posting to newsgroups, "privacy"   
   > is a simple matter, because none of the plain text content posted   
   > to these unmoderated newsgroup forums requires decryption to read;   
   > but some users may have more serious concerns about prevention of   
   > "unauthorized" access to unencrypted content regardless of format   
   > or function, in such cases "whole message encryption" is strongly   
   > recommended . . . see https://www.danner-net.de/omom/tutorwme.htm   
   >   
      
   I was thinking the same thing. WhatsApp is vastly more secure. But it does   
   illustrate that despite Telegram's seat in Qatar it has strong ties with the   
   Russian government.   
      
   Maybe it's time for the U.S. and E.U. authorities to brand Telegram as a   
   "foreign agent" and to ban the app in their territories.   
      
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