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   D to The Running Man   
   Re: Telegram CEO Pavel Durov arrested at   
   30 Aug 24 00:04:20   
   
   From: nospam@example.net   
      
   On Thu, 29 Aug 2024, The Running Man wrote:   
      
   > On 29/08/2024 10:30 D  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> On Thu, 29 Aug 2024, The Running Man wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 26/08/2024 01:08 "i"  wrote:   
   >>>> https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckg2kz9kn93o   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> This is why I have claimed that social media companies have   
   >>> an INCENTIVE to end-to-end encrypt everything. If you don't   
   >>> you can be made liable for criminal behavior that occurs on   
   >>> your site.   
   >>>   
   >>> Also you're constantly being harassed by pressure   
   >>> groups like Save The Children and such who claim you need   
   >>> to do more about grooming, sexting, child porn etc. etc.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> Sadly no, because social media corporation thrive on the protection of the   
   >> government, being corporations. That means they have to kneel down before   
   >> them, or lose their status and risk law suits from the government.   
   >>   
   >> However...   
   >>   
   >> I'd say that this is a great opportunity to look through your social media   
   >> and shift to self-hosting, or decentralized, open source solutions. By   
   >> their very nature, not being corporations, and by being much, much smaller   
   >> and insignificant, they, for the moment, slip through the cracks and they   
   >> also usually support much stronger anonymity than the corporations.   
   >   
   > You're demonstrably wrong. Exhibit numer one: MegaUpload. It was a harbor   
   > for illegal downloaded content and its creator is still in hot water over   
   this. About   
   > a decade ago he came up with an E2EE version called Mega. Since then there   
   > haven't been ANY allegations that the site harbors illegal content. And I'm   
   sure there's   
   > plenty of it, but no one knows. LEA can't do anything about it.   
   >   
   > Exhibit number two: Facebook Messenger. Facebook was continually criticized   
   and accused   
   > of not doing enough on  grooming and sexual explicit content being exchanged   
   via Messenger.   
   > Despite massive protests by LEA to not introduce E2EE on  Messenger Facebook   
   remained steadfast   
   > and introduced E2EE in Messenger last year. Result: no more noises by   
   pressure groups and government   
   > agencies.   
   >   
   > I rest my case.   
   >   
      
   Actually that confirms my case. Based on the legal situation of the   
   founders and the nr of dollars donated to political parties in the US, you   
   can see who is in legal trouble and who is not.   
      
   I rest my case.   
      
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