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   Article retention and archive search   
   03 Sep 24 20:09:24   
   
   From: noreply@mixmin.net   
      
   some news servers have very long article retention, with terabytes   
   of overview and article storage, and some newsgroups with millions   
   of articles, from historical usenet archives, commercial providers   
   e.g. utzoo-wiseman archive http://annex.retroarchive.org/utzoo and   
   https://archive.org/details/usenethistorical with many hierarchies;   
   these archives can also be searched by retrieving overview headers   
   online> sample headers from selected groups > download all headers   
   (up to 'x'), the total available depending on server and newsgroup,   
   or select a smaller number as needed; after downloading be sure to   
   set group > selected group options to "never" purge read or unread   
   article headers; subscribe to newsgroup, and backup entire program   
   folder (c:\40tude dialogue) to removable media; with the newsgroup   
   article list pane selected [f6], try subject > has, and enter some   
   keyword probably found in that group, e.g. famous historical event   
   in news:alt.history.ocean-liners.titanic, type "iceberg" and press   
   enter (or click button on right side) to filter the list, which if   
   using the popular "news.blueworldhosting.com" server, should yield   
   about three dozen articles; select all and press enter to download   
   these small article bodies; in edit > find [ctrl+f] > text to find   
   in article body pane, try "olympic" in scope > selected group, and   
   click ok, total of ten instances may be found using find next [f3];   
   but there are about three thousand four hundred (3400) articles in   
   this newsgroup, many dating back over twenty years, so it's easier   
   to search overview subject headers first for keywords, then filter   
   the list before downloading several dozen rather than thousands of   
   article bodies (any server may block ip if excessive use detected);   
      
   many free newsservers store articles for only about one year, some   
   even less, but others have longer retention, so the best way is to   
   test them; add as many servers as you like, and get complete group   
   list for each; at this writing news.alt119.net, paganini.bofh.team,   
   news.usenet.ovh, freenews.netfront.net, news.novabbs.org, and some   
   others (see news:alt.free.newsservers) should be added to the list;   
   pick one popular newsgroup and download all headers on each server   
   for comparison; the server i've been using regularly on "localhost"   
   has less than one year of article retention, but connects securely   
   via omnimix and using tor browser, socks 5, implicit ssl, port 563;   
      
   while some newsgroups have remained popular over the years, others   
   have not or had long ago succumbed to troll farm infestation which   
   overran that formerly active discussion forum--perhaps hundreds of   
   newsgroups fit that description? but sometimes the public interest   
   in a particular subject like the sinking of a luxury liner in 1912   
   waxes and wanes over time; sometimes the subject of a newsgroup is   
   too obscure or lacks common definition, e.g. politics and religion   
   are not alone in that category; anything other-worldly, paranormal,   
   occult, ufos, aliens, ghosts, crop circles, tarot, astrology, etc.,   
   is also too far removed from this weaponized world of human beings   
   who are united in but one common purpose, namely the love of money;   
      
   even so, there are many newsgroups that still attract some modicum   
   of on-topic discussion and that makes archive searches worth while;   
   also, recommended reading about how articles are stored on servers:   
      
   >https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/software/inn/docs/install.html   
   >Choosing an Article Storage Format   
   >https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/software/inn/docs/install.html#S6   
   >Choosing an Overview Storage Mechanism   
   >https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/software/inn/docs/install.html#S7   
      
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