XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.privacy.anon-server, comp.sys.mac.advocacy   
   XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone   
   From: nuh-uh@nope.com   
      
   On 2024-09-23 16:52, Newyana2 wrote:   
   > On 9/23/2024 6:55 PM, Alan wrote:   
   >   
   >> They may believe Apple's claims about privacy, but that doesn't mean   
   >> they don't care.   
   >>   
   >    It's the same thing. Most people take an ostrich approach.   
      
   No. It's not the same at all, and it's not an "ostrich approach".   
      
   > They care about privacy only if it requires no effort. They trust   
   > Apple for the same reason. There's plenty of info about how   
   > sleazy Apple is, but people don't want to know.   
   >   
      
   Sleazy with people's data and/or privacy?   
      
   Produce one.   
      
   >> And how is that about PRIVACY. Apple's iCloud backups are encrypted.   
   >   
   >   It's about privacy like Google Docs is about privacy. Once it's   
   > on the cloud they have legal rights to it. And the default setting for   
   > iCloud encryption is that they handle it for you, so that you don't   
   > have to be responsible.   
      
   Really? You can produce the passage from Apple's terms and conditions   
   that supports that, can you?   
      
   >   
   >> No, today the Mac is so reliable that all my tech support work is for   
   >> my Windows customers.   
   >>   
   >   
   >    No argument there. It's the modern day AOL. They take care of   
   > the details for you. They also have a closed system. They make the   
   > hardware. They control the software. So it's far more stable than   
   > the Windows "eco-system". Microsoft are selling an operating system.   
   > Apple are selling devices. If someone with money to burn and no interest   
   > in tech asked me for advice, I'd probably recommend Apple products...   
   > But I certainly wouldn't recommend them for privacy. It's a walled garden.   
   > Anyone who uses cloud, corporate webmail, online rental software,   
   > on any computer, doesn't seriously care about privacy.   
   Compared to Windows, what privacy do you sacrifice?   
      
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