XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.privacy.anon-server, comp.sys.mac.advocacy   
   XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone   
   From: jollyroger@pobox.com   
      
   On 2024-09-24, Newyana2  wrote:   
   > On 9/23/2024 9:00 PM, -hh wrote:   
   >   
   >>>>   It's about privacy like Google Docs is about privacy. Once it's   
   >>>> on the cloud they have legal rights to it. And the default setting for   
   >>>> iCloud encryption is that they handle it for you, so that you don't   
   >>>> have to be responsible.   
   >>>   
   >>> Really? You can produce the passage from Apple's terms and conditions   
   >>> that supports that, can you?   
   >>   
   >> I'd like to see that claim substantiated too.   
   >   
   > The two of you demonstrate my point, trying hard to find   
   > excuses to not know the facts.   
   >   
   > "Standard data protection is the default setting for your account.   
   > Your iCloud data is encrypted, the encryption keys are secured in   
   > Apple data centers so we can help you with data recovery, and   
   > only certain data is end-to-end encrypted."   
   >   
   > Translation: Apple have your data.   
      
   Nice try, but that's not what you said. You said "they have legal rights   
   to it", which is complete bullshit.   
      
   >> For it sounds to me like what Newyana2 is suggesting is effectively:   
   >> "Google does this, so everyone else has to be doing the same thing too."   
   >>   
   >    Apple is as bad as Google   
      
   Nope. No evidence of that.   
      
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