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   XPost: comp.sys.mac.advocacy   
   From: ithinkiam@gmail.com   
      
   Newyana2  wrote:   
   > On 9/24/2024 9:13 AM, -hh wrote:   
   >   
   >>> "Standard data protection is the default setting for your account.   
   >>> Your iCloud data is encrypted, the encryption keys are secured in   
   >>> Apple data centers so we can help you with data recovery, and   
   >>> only certain data is end-to-end encrypted."   
   >>>   
   >>> Translation: Apple have your data.   
   >>>   
   >>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/102651   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> Except that it wasn't in contention that Apple has one's data.   
   >>   
   >   
   >   Actually this started with me using the example of online iPhone   
   > backup as an example of how people trust Apple and don't care   
   > about their privacy. Alan then said the data is encrypted. This   
   > blurb and link are simply to show that Apple does, indeed, have   
   > access to the data by default.   
   >   
   >> What was in contention was your claim that Apple is like Google, in   
   >> claiming unlimited legal rights to it  (e.g. "we can do whatever we damn   
   >> well please with your data").   
   >>   
   >   
   >   They don't need to claim. It's already legal precendent.   
      
   Only in the US. Fortunately in Europe we have data privacy laws that   
   actually mean something.   
   https://edition.cnn.com/2023/05/22/tech/meta-facebook-data-priva   
   y-eu-fine/index.html   
      
   > :) I'm not going to substantiate anything. You're clearly a   
   > starry eyed AppleSeed who will argue all day, despite any   
   > amount of evidence. For people who actually want to know   
   > the facts, there's plenty of info online, starting with the fine   
   > by the French gov't last year because Apple was spying on   
   > iPhone users without permission, for the purpose of targetted   
   > ads...   
      
   That was technical error about informing users appropriately; not that they   
   were caught spying. It was also historical and had already been corrected.   
      
   This sort of thing would never be litigated in the US as users' rights   
   don't really matter.   
      
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