XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.ipad, comp.sys.mac.advocacy   
   From: andrews@nospam.net   
      
   Tom Elam wrote on Tue, 19 Nov 2024 09:55:52 -0500 :   
      
   > And all that is total bullshit.   
      
   I'm going to respond to this particular Apple troll, Tom Elam,   
   as if he owns the mentality of an adult. Is that OK with you Tom?   
      
   Since you called well-established facts "bullshit", what exactly are you   
   claiming is "bullshit" since I provided all necessary details, including   
   screenshots, proving Apple *requires* your personal phone number in order   
   to set up an iCloud account which is needed to download apps for the iPad.   
      
   Why do you Apple trolls call that "bullshit"?   
   Is it because you don't believe it?   
   If so, that means you're completely ignorant of how the walled garden   
   works.   
      
   Or, is it because you don't like it?   
      
   Then you're just being an ignorant troll by claiming the earth is flat.   
   Simply because you don't like that it's round.   
      
   The fact is only Apple forces you to trade your privacy for the privilege   
   of installing apps. Google doesn't do it. Microsoft doesn't either.   
      
   Just Apple.   
   That's a fact.   
      
   You can call that fact "bullshit", but then, as an adult, I ask why.   
      
   > Apple does not ask for   
   >   
   > SSN, Medicare ID, date of birth, address, etc.   
      
   Huh? Nobody said they did. And yet, they do. Apple *requires* your   
   government ID whenever you stop logging into your iPad, which you Apple   
   trolls are unaware that you're logging into the Apple servers every day.   
      
   Yes. You heard that correctly. Only Apple requires your government issue iD   
   to unlock an iPad that Apple unilaterally bricked simply because you   
   stopped logging into it for two years (this happened on two different   
   iPads!).   
     Apple _forces_ a log in!   
     Apple tracks your activity   
     Apps become non functional   
     Apple _forces_ extra logins!   
     Apple tracking server login   
      
   What's interesting is you Apple trolls know nothing about Apple.   
   Why don't you Apple trolls know anything about how Apple really works?   
      
   > What evidence do you have that providing Apple a phone number   
   > compromises your privacy? What evidence that the phone number   
   > compromises anything?   
      
   Huh? It's your phone number. Only you. Nobody else. If you don't understand   
   that it compromises your privacy, then let me ask you why you think NOBODY   
   BUT APPLE does this? Nobody. Not Google. Not Microsoft. Just Apple.   
      
   Do you Apple trolls understand anything at the level an adult should?   
      
   Why, Tom Elam, do you think only Apple requires your phone number in order   
   to install apps - when NOBODY else who makes an OS requires your privacy?   
      
   > You never answer my questions. You don't have answers.   
      
   You make that claim without even realizing I know more about Apple than all   
   of you Apple trolls combined do - since NONE of you even know that you're   
   logging into Apple mainframe servers every single moment of every day of   
   the rest of your natural life. You don't know that. You think you're not.   
      
   But you are.   
      
     iPadOS 16.3.1 is available   
     16.3.1 Update Requested   
     About 10 minutes remaining   
     Preparing Update   
     Downloaded   
     Finish Setting Up iPad   
     More for your iPad   
     Update Apple ID Settings   
     iPadOS Version 16.3.1   
     Sign in to iCloud   
     Finished Setting up iPad   
     Verifying update...   
      
   Only Apple forces you to trade your privacy for the privilege of installing   
   apps. Google doesn't do it. Neither does Microsoft. Just Apple.   
      
   Why is that a fact, Tom Elam?   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)