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   Message 110,856 of 112,125   
   Andrew to badgolferman   
   Re: RCS is not more private and secure t   
   19 Dec 24 02:56:04   
   
   XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android   
   From: andys@nospam.com   
      
   badgolferman wrote on Wed, 18 Dec 2024 21:41:16 -0000 (UTC) :   
      
   >> The FBI doesn't take sides so they don't mention Apple is the problem.   
   >> But anyone with half a brain is well aware that Apple is the problem.   
   >>   
   >   
   > In my opinion Apple would not lose customers if they made RCS   
   > interoperability possible with Android. People buy Apple products not for   
   > their messaging app, but for many other features.   
      
   Hi badgolferman,   
      
   I can speak with you normally, where I don't have to dumb down the message.   
      
   Knowing that Apple is one of the most brilliant marketing organizations in   
   the world, and assuming Apple legal must also be the best in the world, and   
   knowing that Apple only tells the truth in court, we can perhaps ascertain   
   Apple's true intentions by their own executives' emails deposed in the Epic   
   case.   
      
   We've discussed those very emails on this very newsgroup in gory detail, so   
   there's no need to repeat them other than to summarize that Apple considers   
   interoperability outside the walled garden to be a dire threat to profits.   
      
   And it is.   
      
   Since we discussed this many times, you're likely well aware those Apple   
   executives said in those published internal emails that the messaging app   
   allowed Apple to lock people into the walled garden ecosystem -   
   particularly - Apple execs stated - young impressionable kids whose parents   
   buy their iPhones for them and whose parents want to give the kids what   
   their peers ask them to have.   
      
   This is, almost certainly, why some of those impressionable kids make such   
   a big deal out of green/blue bubbles, where, ironically, these   
   non-technical kids are surprisingly clueless that a green bubble message   
   with Android RCS users means that the messaging is NOT encrypted.   
      
   If Google and Apple could   
   > agree on an encryption protocol - even temporarily - it would show goodwill   
   > to all their customers.   
      
   It's not Google holding it up. It's Apple. (See above reason why.)   
   Remember, the executives publicly said interoperability petrified them.   
      
   > Having said that, I'm glad Apple adopted some RCS functions. At least now I   
   > can see when people have read my messages (if they've turned that feature   
   > on) and reactions are now possible with my Android friends.   
      
   +1. Agree. It's great that the EU is slowly forcing Apple to do things that   
   their customers want them to do but which Apple feels decreases profits.   
      
   The last thing Apple wants to do is interoperate with any other ecosystem.   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
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