XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android   
   From: usenet@arnowelzel.de   
      
   david, 2024-12-20 23:58:   
      
   > Using , Ant wrote:   
   >   
   >>> How can you send and receive group facetime messages to and from other   
   >>> Apple users without logging into Apple's messaging servers on the Internet?   
   >>   
   >> Why would I want those when I don't want to be bothered?   
   >   
   > You're the one who lied about iOS not always needing internet access to use   
   > the features locked inside Apple's walled garden (such as to install apps).   
   >   
   > Your iOS device does almost nothing without logging into Apple's servers.   
      
   "Almost nothing"? Well - calling people on the phone is possible, taking   
   pictures, listening to music stored on the device, checking the current   
   time, using the calculator and *all* other apps which don't need an   
   active internet connection to work... I would not call this "almost   
   nothing". It's not less as with Android devices when you don't have   
   internet access.   
      
   > It's up to you, not me, to explain why you lied that you don't need to log   
   > into Apple's servers to use the walled garden (such as to install apps).   
      
   Installing apps and using Apple services is just a part of the device   
   features. You also don't need Google services all the time to use an   
   Android device. But without *any* network connection *all* smartphones   
   have limited functionality. So why do you consider this "almost nothing"   
   when it comes to Apple devices? Do Android devices also do "almost   
   nothing" without internet connection and access to Google services, just   
   because you can't access Google Play?   
      
      
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