XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android   
   From: andys@nospam.com   
      
   Arno Welzel wrote on Sat, 21 Dec 2024 17:10:31 +0100 :   
      
   >> You're always logged in. 24 hours a day. 7 days a week. 365 days a year.   
   >> That's "constant Internet access".   
   >   
   > Maybe you are - but I am not. My employers iPhone SE is *not* always   
   > logged in since I sometimes have it with me at places where there is no   
   > network available. And the device still works and still can be used as   
   > camera, music player, calculator etc..   
      
   Nope. You're wrong. You know nothing about how iOS works.   
   But see for yourself BEFORE you respond please.   
      
   Try this BEFORE you respond please.   
      
   1. Log out of the iCloud, Facetime, Messages, AppStore, etc.   
   2. Then try to do something you like in the walled garden.   
      
   You can't.   
      
   Worse, the iPad will nag you until the end of time to log back in.   
   Ask me how I know this?   
      
   Eventually, after two years (on two different iPads) Apple will brick the   
   account (again, ask me how I know this).   
      
   Then you have to go to the Apple store and present your government ID.   
   Only then will Apple unlock your account that you didn't log into.   
      
   Ask me how I know all this.   
      
   You know NOTHING whatsoever about this.   
   Because you never tried logging OUT of Apple's accounts.   
      
   Please TRY IT FIRST before you respond.   
   I have so you can do it too since you're smarter than I am Arno.   
      
   1. Apple "ID Verification" prompts come up ten, twenty or more times a day.   
         
   2. Apple "Sign-in to iCloud" prompts come up a dozen or more times a day.   
         
   3. Apple won't let you sign in even with the _correct_ login & password.   
         
   4. The Apple web site is so poorly designed it doesn't even tell you why.   
         
   5. Eventually, as it did with one of my iPads already, Apple destroys it.   
         
         
   6. On my 2nd iPad, the Apple apps stop working (but everything else works!)   
         
   7. Every single day, many times a day, you're confronted with tracking crap   
      such as this "Some account services require you to sign in again"   
         
   8. Interestingly, you can update your iOS (which I almost never do) as   
   shown   
      here where I updated this week from iOS 13 to iOS 15 (and it let me).   
         
   9. And you can wipe out your Siri recordings (due to the recent zero-day).   
         
   10. Yet Apple tracking servers still require "Apple ID Verification"   
         
   11. And, you can install an app, but if you delete it, you can't   
   re-install.   
         
         
   12. In the end, if you attempt that forced validation on VPN, Apple   
      unilaterally destroys your investment by locking you out of it forever!   
         
   13. All because Apple tracking servers _require_ periodic ID verification.   
         
         
      
   If you don't even *L@@K* at that proof, then you will continue to know   
   absolutely nothing about how iOS actually works, Arno.   
      
   Nothing works on iOS that you like once you log out of Apple's accounts.   
      
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