XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android   
   From: andys@nospam.com   
      
   Arno Welzel wrote on Sat, 21 Dec 2024 17:04:26 +0100 :   
      
   >> The iPhone is a dumb terminal - devoid of functionality if you don't log   
   >> into the Apple mainframe servers 24/7/365 just for basic functionality.   
   >   
   > I got an iPhone SE from my employer and can't reproduce this.   
   >   
   > Even without internet and without connection to Apple it still works. I   
   > can take pictures with it, listen to music which is stored on the device   
   > and even call people if I only have GSM without internet.   
   >   
   > So what exactly do you mean?   
      
   Arno,   
      
   Do you know that I've been using iOS & Android for many years?   
   Do you know that I *test* what they can and cannot do without accounts?   
      
   If not, then you need to TRY it yourself.   
   Let's take the simplest case possible, Arno.   
      
   a. Buy a new iOS device   
   b. Do NOT create a mothership account on it (i.e., Apple)   
   c. Tell us all what that device can do and cannot do   
      
   Then let's repeat that simplest case, Arno, for all other OSs.   
   a. Buy a new Windows or Android device   
   b. Do NOT create a mothership account on it (i.e., MS or Google)   
   c. Tell us all what that device can do and cannot do   
      
   Do you see a difference?   
   Is it astoundingly huge?   
      
   Why?   
      
   HINT: The iOS device can't do *anything* without that mothership account.   
   Which is why iOS owners are logged into Apple servers 24/7/365 forever.   
      
   Yes. Even you.   
      
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