XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android   
   From: andys@nospam.com   
      
   Arno Welzel wrote on Sat, 21 Dec 2024 17:05:12 +0100 :   
      
   >> How can you send and receive group facetime messages to and from other   
   >> Apple users without logging into Apple's messaging servers on the Internet?   
   >   
   > Is "send and receive group facetime messages" neccessary to do phone   
   > calls, taking pictures or listening to music stored on the device?   
      
   Arno,   
      
   Please tell all of us how you can do *anything* on the iOS device *without*   
   logging into the Internet to *create* an Apple account on Apple's servers.   
      
   C'mon... tell us.   
      
   HINT: You can't even make a phone call without doing that first, Arno.   
      
   Note that if you don't know this simple fact, which everyone knows by the   
   way, then it means you know absolutely NOTHING about how iOS devices work.   
      
   Discussing such basics with you is absurd because you sound like Alan Baker   
   who also knows absolutely nothing about how anything works, Arno.   
      
   Please stop saying absurd claims that only people like Alan Baker say.   
      
   Log out of all your Apple accounts, Arno - and then you tell us all what   
   you can and cannot do. Do not respond until AFTER you've logged out of   
   them!   
      
   Otherwise you know NOTHING about how iOS works, Arno.   
   Only Apple requires you to create an account to do the simplest of things.   
      
   HINT:   
   a. Take a new iPhone   
   b. Do NOT create an Apple Account on it   
   c. Try to make phone calls   
      
   Tell us all how well that works out for you, Arno.   
      
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