XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android   
   From: nuh-uh@nope.com   
      
   On 2024-12-21 13:10, Andrew wrote:   
   > Arno Welzel wrote on Sat, 21 Dec 2024 17:04:26 +0100 :   
   >   
   >>> The iPhone is a dumb terminal - devoid of functionality if you don't log   
   >>> into the Apple mainframe servers 24/7/365 just for basic functionality.   
   >>   
   >> I got an iPhone SE from my employer and can't reproduce this.   
   >>   
   >> Even without internet and without connection to Apple it still works. I   
   >> can take pictures with it, listen to music which is stored on the device   
   >> and even call people if I only have GSM without internet.   
   >>   
   >> So what exactly do you mean?   
   >   
   > Arno,   
   >   
   > Do you know that I've been using iOS & Android for many years?   
   > Do you know that I *test* what they can and cannot do without accounts?   
   >   
   > If not, then you need to TRY it yourself.   
   > Let's take the simplest case possible, Arno.   
   >   
   > a. Buy a new iOS device   
   > b. Do NOT create a mothership account on it (i.e., Apple)   
   > c. Tell us all what that device can do and cannot do   
   >   
   > Then let's repeat that simplest case, Arno, for all other OSs.   
   > a. Buy a new Windows or Android device   
   > b. Do NOT create a mothership account on it (i.e., MS or Google)   
   > c. Tell us all what that device can do and cannot do   
   >   
   > Do you see a difference?   
   > Is it astoundingly huge?   
   >   
   > Why?   
   >   
   > HINT: The iOS device can't do *anything* without that mothership account.   
   > Which is why iOS owners are logged into Apple servers 24/7/365 forever.   
   >   
   > Yes. Even you.   
      
   I have an iPad.   
      
   I've just logged out of my Apple Account (formerly called "AppleID").   
      
   It seems to be working fine.   
      
   :-)   
      
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