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   Arno Welzel to All   
   Re: RCS is not more private and secure t   
   28 Dec 24 12:37:40   
   
   XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android   
   From: usenet@arnowelzel.de   
      
   Andrew, 2024-12-27 19:42:   
      
   > Arno Welzel wrote on Thu, 26 Dec 2024 21:03:24 +0100 :   
   >   
   >>> Which is why 99.99% of iOS owners are connected to Apple's servers on the   
   >>> Internet 24/7/365. Every moment they're on the device. Apple tracks it all.   
   >>   
   >> Not only Apple. Microsoft and Google do this as well.   
   >   
   > Everything you claim, Arno, shows you do not understand how Android works.   
      
   Well - I've been developing software for Android for more than 10 years   
   now and one of my private projects is available on F-Droid and Google Play:   
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
   I *know* how Android works.   
      
   > Specifically, you are unaware that Android does not require a Google   
   > Account set up on the phone - and the proof is that I don't have one.   
      
   Of course - but this is not the point! You *require* a Google account   
   for many apps, so it is completely pointless if Android itself does not   
   need this to be used at all.   
      
   > Why is it that I can do everything I need to do on Android without that   
   > Google Account set up on my phone - and you can't do anything without it?   
      
   Because I use apps which *require* a Google account. But I am willing to   
   learn how to use Google Play, Google Maps, Google Wallet, PayPal, Jelbi   
   and many others without a Google account.   
      
   > Seriously, Arno.   
   > Your statements prove you know absolutely nothing about Android.   
      
   And you still don't get my point.   
      
   > And no, I'm not rooted.   
      
   "Rooting" is a thing of the past. Nowadays it makes no sense to root a   
   device anyway in most cases. e/OS/ and LineageOS come without root   
   access - and this is good so!   
      
   [...]   
   >> Are you aware that you don't know anything at all?   
   >   
   > And yet, my (unrooted) Android works fine without a Google Account set up   
   > on it - & you can't even do that - so who is the one who knows nothing?   
      
   Well - setting up a device is just the first step. Most people do not   
   just want to setup their device but also install and use apps. And not   
   apps available on F-Droid but also apps from Google Play.   
      
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   Arno Welzel   
   https://arnowelzel.de   
      
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