XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android   
   From: andys@nospam.com   
      
   Arno Welzel wrote on Sat, 28 Dec 2024 12:44:21 +0100 :   
      
   >> Nope. Try it. Buy a new iPhone. Don't initialize it. Tell us what happens.   
   >   
   > As I said - you can use it for phone calls. You only need to   
   > "initialize" it when you want to use Apple services.   
      
   No. You're wrong, Arno. Even the Apple trolls don't know this.   
      
   You GUESSED what I said - you didn't UNDERSTAND what I said.   
   You simply GUESSED. And you guessed wrong, Arno.   
      
   Read what I had said. What I had said has NOTHING to do with an Apple ID.   
   Again, read what I just said. It has NOTHING to do with an Apple Account.   
      
   *I can tell you've _NEVER initialized_ an Apple device*, Arno.   
   That's clear.   
      
   You can NOT even make a phone call WITHOUT initializing (aka Activating)   
   the brand new (or factory reset) device on Apple servers on the Internet.   
      
   It's impossible.   
      
   And again, this has NOTHING to do with the Apple Account (aka Apple ID).   
   It's all about the device.   
      
   Only Apple does that.   
   Nobody else.   
      
   Apple murdered privacy.   
   --   
   The Win11 account is different & it can be worked around easily anyway.   
      
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