XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android   
   From: nuh-uh@nope.com   
      
   On 2024-12-28 10:55, Andrew wrote:   
   > Arno Welzel wrote on Sat, 28 Dec 2024 12:44:21 +0100 :   
   >   
   >>> Nope. Try it. Buy a new iPhone. Don't initialize it. Tell us what   
   >>> happens.   
   >>   
   >> As I said - you can use it for phone calls. You only need to   
   >> "initialize" it when you want to use Apple services.   
   >   
   > No. You're wrong, Arno. Even the Apple trolls don't know this.   
   >   
   > You GUESSED what I said - you didn't UNDERSTAND what I said.   
   > You simply GUESSED. And you guessed wrong, Arno.   
   >   
   > Read what I had said. What I had said has NOTHING to do with an Apple ID.   
   > Again, read what I just said. It has NOTHING to do with an Apple Account.   
   >   
   > *I can tell you've _NEVER initialized_ an Apple device*, Arno.   
   > That's clear.   
   >   
   > You can NOT even make a phone call WITHOUT initializing (aka Activating)   
   > the brand new (or factory reset) device on Apple servers on the Internet.   
   >   
   > It's impossible.   
   >   
   > And again, this has NOTHING to do with the Apple Account (aka Apple ID).   
   > It's all about the device.   
   >   
   > Only Apple does that.   
   > Nobody else.   
   >   
   > Apple murdered privacy.   
      
   And now you've completely pivoted.   
      
   Your initial claim was that you had to be logged into an Apple account   
   "24/7/365".   
      
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