XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android   
   From: nuh-uh@nope.com   
      
   On 2024-12-28 10:58, Andrew wrote:   
   > Frank Slootweg wrote on 28 Dec 2024 14:34:35 GMT :   
   >   
   >>> As I said - you can use it for phone calls. You only need to   
   >>> "initialize" it when you want to use Apple services.   
   >>   
   >>   Yes, of course one can use an iPhone for phone calls (and SMS/MMS)   
   >> without 'initializing' it with Apple (AppleID, etc.). If one couldn't,   
   >> there would be no point donating 'old' iPhones to people in third world   
   >> countries, etc..   
   >   
   > Frank,   
   >   
   > You are wrong.   
   >   
   > You are wrong because initializing/activating an iOS device has NOTHING   
   > whatsoever to do with the Apple ID (aka Apple Account).   
   >   
   > None of you appear to UNDERSTAND there is a difference.   
   >   
   > Try this:   
   > a. Buy a brand new iPhone   
   > b. Try to use it (e.g., to make a phone call)   
   >   
   > You can't.   
   >   
   > First you have to "activate" (aka "initialize") it.   
   > Then you can make phone calls.   
   >   
   > Guess what you have to CONNECT to in order to activate/initialize it,   
   > Frank?   
   >   
   > Take a wild guess.   
   >   
   > Only *after* you've initialized/activated it, can you even begin to make   
   > the decision of whether or not you want to add an Apple Account to it.   
   >   
   > No other consumer platform requires the Internet just to begin to work.   
   >   
   > Apple murdered privacy.   
      
   How does activation "murder privacy"?   
      
   Does activation ask for any personal information?   
      
   No.   
      
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