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   Message 110,939 of 112,125   
   Arno Welzel to All   
   Re: RCS is not more private and secure t   
   01 Jan 25 23:15:59   
   
   XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android   
   From: usenet@arnowelzel.de   
      
   Andrew, 2025-01-01 03:02:   
      
   [...]   
   > The main reason for the "absurdity" of this discussion is that it's clear   
   > neither you nor Arno understand how Android works (since an Android phone   
   > does everything without a Google Account being set up on that phone).   
      
   I *do* understand how Android works! And yes, I *know* that you don't   
   need a Google account to use Android!   
      
   I only explained, that there are apps(!) which need a Google account and   
   in that case it is completely irrelevant, if the OS itself needs that or   
   not!   
      
   You can not use Google Wallet without an account for example and there   
   are many other usecases where normal users just rely on Google services.   
   Not everybody is able to set up DAVx5 and host a server for   
   CardDAV/CalDAV to make sure adressbook and calendar are backed up and   
   can be used on other devices too.   
      
   > Only one out of a million people understand how Android works, Frank.   
      
   No - even fewer people do so. You won't find more than a few tenthousand   
   people on the world who really understand how Android works, since most   
   people just *use* it and don't know anything at all about application   
   manifests, permissions, sandboxing and so on.   
      
   But they don't care. People use devices and don't care about the   
   requirements. People use services by Apple, Google, Microsoft, Meta and   
   so on - and they don't care!   
      
   [...]   
   > Neither you nor Arno have any idea whatsoever how Android works, Frank.   
      
   I've been publishing apps for Android for more than 10 years now without   
   knowning how Android works? You are really funny.   
      
   > Every single app on the Google Play Store repository is available to the   
   > Auroa app (which does NOT require a Google Account on the phone) Frank.   
   >   
   > What's absurd is neither you nor Arno have any idea what an Android phone   
   > can do WITHOUT having a Google Account on that phone.   
      
   I know that. I *use* Android devices without any Google account. But you   
   did not understand one single word I word - nothing at all.   
      
   > I haven't had a Google Account on my Android phones for many years, Frank.   
   > And I can do more than you can do with that phone, Frank.   
      
   And I am an Android developer since 2008. What is your professional   
   expertise here besides your private experiences?   
      
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   Arno Welzel   
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