XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android   
   From: nuh-uh@nope.com   
      
   On 2025-01-01 14:15, Arno Welzel wrote:   
   > Andrew, 2025-01-01 03:02:   
   >   
   > [...]   
   >> The main reason for the "absurdity" of this discussion is that it's clear   
   >> neither you nor Arno understand how Android works (since an Android phone   
   >> does everything without a Google Account being set up on that phone).   
   >   
   > I *do* understand how Android works! And yes, I *know* that you don't   
   > need a Google account to use Android!   
   >   
   > I only explained, that there are apps(!) which need a Google account and   
   > in that case it is completely irrelevant, if the OS itself needs that or   
   > not!   
   >   
   > You can not use Google Wallet without an account for example and there   
   > are many other usecases where normal users just rely on Google services.   
   > Not everybody is able to set up DAVx5 and host a server for   
   > CardDAV/CalDAV to make sure adressbook and calendar are backed up and   
   > can be used on other devices too.   
   >   
   >> Only one out of a million people understand how Android works, Frank.   
   >   
   > No - even fewer people do so. You won't find more than a few tenthousand   
   > people on the world who really understand how Android works, since most   
   > people just *use* it and don't know anything at all about application   
   > manifests, permissions, sandboxing and so on.   
   >   
   > But they don't care. People use devices and don't care about the   
   > requirements. People use services by Apple, Google, Microsoft, Meta and   
   > so on - and they don't care!   
   >   
   > [...]   
   >> Neither you nor Arno have any idea whatsoever how Android works, Frank.   
   >   
   > I've been publishing apps for Android for more than 10 years now without   
   > knowning how Android works? You are really funny.   
   >   
   >> Every single app on the Google Play Store repository is available to the   
   >> Auroa app (which does NOT require a Google Account on the phone) Frank.   
   >>   
   >> What's absurd is neither you nor Arno have any idea what an Android phone   
   >> can do WITHOUT having a Google Account on that phone.   
   >   
   > I know that. I *use* Android devices without any Google account. But you   
   > did not understand one single word I word - nothing at all.   
   >   
   >> I haven't had a Google Account on my Android phones for many years, Frank.   
   >> And I can do more than you can do with that phone, Frank.   
   >   
   > And I am an Android developer since 2008. What is your professional   
   > expertise here besides your private experiences?   
   >   
      
   Andrew/Arlen will be saying in a post next week that you "admitted to   
   never using Android".   
      
   Kind of like he ignores the proof that I am a racing driver and   
   certified race driving instructor.   
      
   :-)   
      
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