XPost: comp.mobile.android, uk.telecom.mobile   
   From: marion@facts.com   
      
   On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 10:14:22 +0000, Jeff Layman wrote :   
      
      
   > Unfortunately, most people have a Google account and automatically log   
   > on when they get a new phone (if for no other reason than to transfer   
   > all their old phone info to the new one via a Google backup).   
      
   Hi Jeff,   
      
   You taught me a lot in the past, and below, I see you taught me more.   
   That's good as we can each learn from others so we know everything we can.   
      
   I've asked why people put a Google Account on the phone in the past, and   
   mostly I get two answers, neither of which is what I'd do but I understand.   
      
   a. Most people just don't think - they don't both to hit the "skip" option   
   b. Some people want the "convenience" of being 24/7/365 connected to Google   
      
   I get it. But then those people should never complain that they "can't"   
   have privacy. It's ok for them to complain that they "don't" have privacy.   
      
   But "can't" is very different from "don't".   
      
   Me?   
   I can have privacy from Google in terms of what this thread is about.   
   I don't have a Google Account set up on my phone.   
      
   If there's anything other people can do with that Google Account set up on   
   the phone that I can't do without that account being set up, let me know.   
      
   Note: Having a Google Account & having it set up on the phone are different   
   things that a lot of people seem to thing are the same - but they're not.   
      
   You can still get all the apps off of the Google Play Store repo without a   
   Google Account set up on the phone, just like you can get all your Google   
   Mail you want without an account on the phone, just like YouTube, etc.   
      
   > If you want to be free from Google, probably the way to go is Sailfish,   
   > Pure, or Pine.   
      
   I think the *simplest* way to be "free from Google" is to hit the "skip"   
   button when you set up a phone, or, hit the "delete" button in settings.   
      
   However, to address "Sailfish", "Pure" & "Pine", looking them up, is this a   
   good characterization of what they are in terms of what you're suggesting?   
      
   Sailfish OS:   
    A Linux-based OS developed by Jolla that runs only some Android apps.   
      
   PureOS:   
    A Debian-based privacy OS developed by Purism that runs its own apps only.   
      
   PinePhone:   
    An open phone developed by Pine64 that runs Sailfish OS (& other OS's).   
      
   Thanks for bringing them up, but as with those who say "there is no   
   privacy" on Android who also have a Google Account set up on Android,   
   naturally I disagree that we have to go "that far" to get some privacy.   
      
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