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   J. P. Gilliver to Marion   
   Re: If it's freeware, you are the produc   
   01 Sep 25 21:19:23   
   
   XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.comp.freeware   
   From: G6JPG@255soft.uk   
      
   On 2025/9/1 17:2:59, Marion wrote:   
   > On Mon, 1 Sep 2025 08:28:24 -0700, Mike Easter wrote :   
   >   
   >   
   >> Marion wrote:   
   >>> What examples of freeware do you feel meet or do not meet these aphorisms?   
   >>   
   >> There is too much free/open ware to do this.   
   >   
   > True. Irfanview is my top-most favorite.   
   > What's yours?   
      
   Certainly, IrfanView - and its plugins, like the lossless JPEG rotate   
   and crop, and the OCR - come to my mind first. I have to think a bit   
   then, but I think the two suites - Mark Russinovitch (sysinternals) and   
   NirSoft - must come high.   
      
   []   
      
   >> Also, the open source world is considerably more complex because of the   
   >> licensing structure which applies to it.   
   >   
   > I never really understood the "free as in free beer" aphorism since what   
   > matters to me only is that it's legitimately free for me to use it.   
      
   It bugs me a little, too, not sure why: possibly because the expression   
   "free beer" isn't common in UK. But what they mean is to distinguish   
   between the two meanings of free (as applied to "free to use"): free as   
   in costs nothing, and free as in usable without restriction.>   
   > An example is ffmpeg vs lame, which were free for me to use but may be   
   > encumbered with licenses that I didn't care to even bother to understand.   
      
   I get pleasure from WinAmp and VLC, but I'm not sure what spying they do.>   
   > With all that in mind, there is value to the group for us to answer this...   
   > What is the one finest piece of Windows-based freeware that you enjoy most?   
   Can't just pick one! IrfanView, yt-dlp, WinAmo, VLC, BitMeter2, Noisy   
   Keyboard, Noisy Mouse, Macrium Reflect Free, Remove Empty Directories   
   (RED), FreeFileSync, CrystalDiskInfo, even Thunderbird, _old_ versions   
   of Foxit and Acrobat, ClockSmith Lite, Classic Shell ...   
   Some of those I enjoy using, some I enjoy their results, or knowing that   
   they have run (or are running) well. Some in combination, of course.   
      
   --   
   J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf   
      
   They are public servants, so we will threat them rather as Flashman   
   treats servants. - Stephen Fry on some people's attitudo to the BBC, in   
   Radio Times, 3-9 July 2010   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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