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   Marion to badgolferman   
   Re: Google accessed users' mobile device   
   05 Sep 25 02:02:34   
   
   XPost: comp.mobile.android, misc.phone.mobile.iphone   
   From: marion@facts.com   
      
   On Thu, 4 Sep 2025 07:54:10 -0400, badgolferman wrote :   
      
      
   >> So even if someone was using an iPhone and thought they'd opted out of   
   >> tracking, Google could still collect data through third-party apps that   
   >> integrated its tools.   
   >   
   > Is this an iPhone or Android or both violation of privacy?   
      
   Hi badgolferman,   
      
   Great question. The problem is Google gives the developers its code.   
   Those developers use Google's code in both iOS & Android applications.   
      
   Hence, unfortunately, it's both platforms as developers integrate Google   
   APIs such as Google Analytics into both operating systems; but the good   
   news for iOS is that it's a little less worse on iOS than it is on Android.   
      
   The court found that Google continued collecting user data even after   
   people disabled tracking features like Web & App Activity. This was   
   possible because many third-party apps (including Uber, Lyft, Amazon,   
   Instagram & Facebook) have integrated Google services like Firebase and   
   Google Analytics. These integrations allowed Google to gather user activity   
   data regardless of the device's operating system.   
      
   So even if someone was using an iPhone & thought they'd opted out of   
   tracking, Google could still collect data through those apps. The key issue   
   wasn't the phone OS itself. It was the embedded Google services inside the   
   apps users interacted with.   
      
   Google's argument, of course, is that they didn't do it. Facebook did it.   
   Or Uber did it. And Lyft did it. But the court didn't fall for the ruse.   
      
   Google plans on appealing because Google claims that the jury didn't   
   understand them. Personally, I think the jury understood all too well.   
      
   This case is a reminder that privacy controls on your mobile device or   
   account don't always extend to the services running behind the scenes.   
      
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