XPost: comp.mobile.android, misc.phone.mobile.iphone   
   From: marion@facts.com   
      
   On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 08:01:13 +0100, Jeff Layman wrote :   
      
      
   >> This case is a reminder that privacy controls on your mobile device or   
   >> account don't always extend to the services running behind the scenes.   
   >   
   > Do you know if these basic Android controls are any different with the   
   > modified Android OSs such as GrapheneOS and LineageOS?   
      
   I'm sure they are!   
      
   GrapheneOS is built from the ground up for privacy and security, which,   
   funnily enough, is what Apple says iOS is built for.   
      
   The biggest privacy boost in GrapheneOS, much like with iOS, is that it   
   does not include Google Play Services by default, so there is no automatic   
   data sharing with Google.   
      
   In addition, again, much like iOS has, GrapheneOS also has stronger app   
   sandboxing than native Android has, plus advanced permission controls, and   
   like iOS, even global toggles for sensors like the microphone and camera.   
      
   Since Google services are not integrated into GrapheneOS, settings like Web   
   and App Activity do not apply unless you opt in - just like with iOS.   
      
   Much like iOS, GrapheneOS also delivers frequent security updates and   
   enforces protections like Verified Boot and rollback prevention.   
      
   On the other hand, LineageOS is more focused on customization and   
   flexibility. It can be installed with or without Google apps, depending on   
   whether you use GApps or MicroG.   
      
   However, adding those services reintroduces some tracking.   
   Older versions of LineageOS included Privacy Guard, which allowed users to   
   restrict app  permissions, but it is less advanced than GrapheneOS's   
   controls.   
      
   However, like iOS, LineageOS works on a wider range of devices but may lag   
   behind in applying security patches and does not enforce the same level of   
   hardware-based protections (funnily enough, just like iOS!). :)   
      
   If we wish to minimize background data collection and avoid the kind of   
   tracking in that recent court case, I would think GrapheneOS is the   
   stronger choice.   
      
   LineageOS has better device support and customization, but it is not as   
   hardened for privacy out of the box.   
      
   Too bad we can't put iOS on Android.      :)   
      
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