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   Stefan Claas to All   
   Re: M2usenet2.0 is out   
   20 Oct 25 07:16:00   
   
   XPost: alt.privacy.anon-server, sci.crypt   
   From: bounce.me@oc2mx.net   
      
   Yamn2 Remailer wrote:   
   > Stefan Claas  wrote:   
   > > Anonymous User wrote:   
   > > > Stefan Claas  wrote:   
   > >   
   > > > > With YAMN's security flaws you can be easily de-anonymized.   
   > > >   
   > > > Which security flaws?  You don't think of Internet I/O which anyhow has   
   > > > to be handled by specialized communication software like OmniMix?   
   > >   
   > > First of all, Zax should IMHO seperate the client form the remailer   
   > > code, so that users can focus on one program.   
   >   
   > Doesn't look like a problem for OmniMix.   
      
   But who uss OmniMix? Only a handful of a.p.a-s users which   
   is not the global majority of remailer users.   
   >   
   > >   
   > > I do not use OmniMix, so I can't speak for it.   
   >   
   > So you stir up hatred against it though you're not competent   
   > talking about it.  That paints a queer character.   
      
   With using I mean regularly, soory. I have tested a couple of times   
   of course too.   
      
   > > YAMN has the following security flaws:   
   > >   
   > > a) It does not want onion addresses to been used in the MX code   
   > > and Zax should really tell us why!   
   >   
   > With its advanced delivery strategy OmniMix does a much better   
   > job in forwarding remailer packets than any remailer packet   
   > encoder could ever do.   
      
   See above.   
      
   > > b) Users new to remailing with YAMN, see only at his repository   
   > > minimal configuration files, which are of not much help, IMHO.   
   >   
   > Users new to remailing should use a GUI like OmniMix or QS/L.   
   > There's so much that can go wrong.  And all that copying &   
   > pasting is boring and prone to errors.  Fortunately there's no   
   > reason to reinvent the wheel and learn command line commands.   
      
   No, they use what they see at GitHub and elsewhere.   
      
   > > But the problem is, if you do not look close at his source code   
   > > IIRC in config.go, the YAMN client, when set-up not properly,   
   > > with socat, can and does bypass your Tor settings in socat and   
   > > sends via clearnet to mixmin, filling up his log files and then   
   > > crashing his server. Remops know that when analyzing MTA logs   
   > > that they include the IP address from the originating client, if   
   > > Tor is bypassed, and to whom the email goes. *That is definetily   
   > > an absolute no-go* and Zax should explain to us why he coded it   
   > > that way for client usage, if users are unaware of this! I am   
   > > talking of the internal MXRelay = true setting, which should   
   > > be by default set to false in his source code. Mixmaster IIRC   
   > > does not do this.   
   > >   
   > > c) Zax should better use Go's proxy package for a seperate   
   > > YAMN client, so that stats and pub keys can be fetched via   
   > > Tor and also remailing is done via Tor.   
   >   
   > OmniMix does all this on its own.   
      
   See above.   
   >   
   > But with YAMN Steve did a great job in packet creation fixing   
   > known Mixmaster flaws and moving to more stylish crypto   
   > algorithms.  The rest is of minor importance.   
      
   You mean this theorethic Ritter's tagging attack?   
      
   > You as a Linux guy should be accustomed to task separation with   
   > a GUI integrating all of those components?  OmniMix is just   
   > that.   
      
   Please don't repeat the OmniMix usage.   
      
   > > He should really tell us all, what has driven him to not   
   > > like onions, which can be seen IIRC in mail.go.   
   > >   
   > > YAMN in it's current form tells me unfortunately that you   
   > > must rely on the old a.p.a-s saying "trust nobody" :-(   
   > >   
   > > Hence the reasone I released yamn-proxy. :-)   
   >   
   > But a properly configured MTA would do it as well.   
      
   An MTA has nothing to do with what I have described and Zax   
   owes us an explanation.   
      
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